[cc-community] for those who want "free only" buttons

drew Roberts zotz at 100jamz.com
Wed Feb 14 18:49:30 EST 2007


On Wednesday 14 February 2007 06:32 pm, Mike Linksvayer wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 07:20 -0500, drew Roberts wrote:
> > On Wednesday 14 February 2007 12:20 am, Mike Linksvayer wrote:
> > > So the current best practice (and usable by Google, Yahoo!, MozCC) is
> > > to annotate the visible link with rel="license" (denoting a licensing
> > > relationship; we don't just happen to be linking to a URL that happens
> > > to be a license), which you can think of as the rel-license microformat
> > > or producing a "<> :license <license uri> ." triple if you prefer RDF.
> >
> > Mike, could you give a little clear write up on what current best
> > practice is? I have read the recent relevant posts but think I must not
> > have understood.
> >
> > How dod the search engines identify licensed content? By links back to
> > the CC license pages?
>
> More or less, qualified with rel="license"
>
> > So if a site is licensed BY-SA and points to BY-NC songs, and a person
> > searches for BY-SA music, wil the engines return this page as a result? I
> > run into issues like that often.
>
> Yes, this is a problem with inexact metadata and using search engines
> that index at the level of web pages only.

Yep, what a pain.
>
> On the metadata front, metadata for an object (e.g., mp3) that is not a
> web page can be specified with RDFa -- see
> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/RDFa and for an example, view source on
> http://ccmixter.org/media/view/media/remix/latest or view the page with
> Songbird with MozCC installed.  There's also a possibility that someday
> a "media microformat" will be defined which includes support for
> licensing, see http://microformats.org/wiki/licensing for some high
> level discussion, most of which is not actually microformat-specific.
> License info for specific objects may also be conveyed in feeds, see
> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Syndication
>
> Buf for search to work in the way that you want there needs to be a
> consumer for any of these methods of annotation.  AFAIK http://owlmm.com
> is the only one so far (importing music to be searched via feeds).  I'm
> reasonably confident things will get much better in this vein this year.
> The other searches available via http://search.creativecommons.org and
> documented at http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CcSearch_implementations
> are doing web page or internal database searches.

So, giventhis, as things stand now, it might be best for people to list media 
of various licenses all on seperate pages with the page using the same 
license. Then, if needed, license the page itself with a dual license but on 
a seperate page. Would that help today with how the search engines work?

all the best,

drew
-- 
(da idea man)


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