[cc-community] YouTube, TPM's etc

Andrew Rens andrewrens at yahoo.com
Tue Aug 28 04:19:22 EDT 2007


Jessica is right, merely not providing for download doesn't constitute a TPM.

There are often legitimate difficulties in assessing whether something is a TPM, because the idea of of a TPM is a unstable and incoherent construct.

Andrew Rens

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From: Jessica Coates <j2.coates at qut.edu.au>
To: cc-community at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 6:22:56 AM
Subject: Re: [cc-community] The big problem with the Spoon video and

It would be a pretty bad precedent to say that a mere absence of
functionality amounts to a TPM.

Down that line of logic, you end up with any printed document being 'TPM
protected' simply because there's no inbuilt way to reproduce it.

As long as they're not actively stopping you from copying it using an add-on
programs like the Firefox downloader I think you've got a strong argument
that it's not a TPM.


Jessica


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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:13:32 +0200
From: "Fred Benenson" <fred.benenson at gmail.com>
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I believe it's still possible to download the flash files from YouTube.
While it's not a preferred format, it's better than nothing:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2390


The question is whether or not this is working around a TPM or just a
"feature" of YouTube.


F

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