[cc-community] CC licensing

Jon Phillips jon at rejon.org
Thu Nov 30 15:27:14 EST 2006


On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 15:19 -0500, drew Roberts wrote:
> On Thursday 30 November 2006 02:53 pm, rob at robmyers.org wrote:
> > Quoting Jon Phillips <jon at rejon.org>:
> > > I'm cc'ing the cc-community list to get more opinions. What do you all
> > > think about this? Russell is hoping to release 500 labels with more
> > > customized designs that consist of "royalty free" clip art, his
> > > companies labels (public domain), and he paid designers to lay them out.
> >
> > If the images are governed by a non-CC license then the CC license
> > cannot be the
> > entire agreement so it cannot be applied. I think you're right that the
> > work cannot be CC licensed if the work is not clearly pure PD.
> >
> > > I recommend that he uses clip art from Open Clip Art Library and/or
> > > spend time to document what is needed and try to pull from public domain
> > > and other licensed compatible works.
> >
> > Tell us more about this "Open Clip Art Library", Jon. ;-)
> >
> > > Oh, he wants to cc-license this 500 label collection...
> >
> > The licensing of "royalty free", often actually PD work, in clipart is an
> > area that really needs clearing up. I get quite annoyed at publishers who
> > claim collective copyright on PD collections then try to license individual
> > works in the collection to you. I won't touch anything from "Dover" with a
> > copyright in it for this reason.
> 
> I think song publishers do this too.
> 
> You can get PD songs, claiming to be the best attempt at the original works 
> and also claiming a copyright on the individual songs in a book of collected 
> folk songs for example.

Yeah, so I guess the proper thing to do would be to go back to the
originals, digitize them and make them available on-line to remove this
problem from the situation.

Anyone wanna help the Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) by
going to the originals, scanning them and making this available as a
resource for the world?

The same should be done for music/scores and other content in the public
domain...which brings me back to the a great business idea I have for
digitization (of the analog world)...like kinkos but for digitization of
your non-digital world. Is anyone interested in this?

Jon

> > Using Open Clipart Library work really is the best idea. If there's
> > anything he
> > needs but isn't in the library yet this could be a good challenge for the
> > OCAL community to create new resources.
> >
> > IANAL, TINLA.
> >
> > -Rob.
> 
> all the best,
> 
> drew
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