[cc-community] cc usage stats

Jon Phillips jon at rejon.org
Mon Nov 27 18:56:18 EST 2006


On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 00:41 +0100, Bjorn Wijers wrote:
> I completly agree, that we need to find more 'stable' statistics and 
> better methodologies.
> 
> Perhaps we can introduce a optional 'phone-home' protocol (based on REST 
> or a maybe plain RSS/OPML feed/) which allows content curators to 
> automagically send to a script located at CC.org? Just to make it 
> easier, because if other content curators are just as sloppy as I am, 
> the wiki will be/is quickly outdated.

> ps: I just updated the numbers for Simuze ;)

Cool...how is that ccHost conversion going ?

> grtz
> BjornW
> 
> 
> Mike Linksvayer wrote:
> > On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 00:16 +0100, Alek Tarkowski wrote:
> >> at the risk of veering slightly off topic and going on a wild and 
> >> abstract academic tangent, I think that the development of the 'metrics 
> >> / stats' issue should include coming up with more transparent 
> >> information about these statistics - currently a number based on highly 
> >> fluctuating measurements and with several other serious difficulties 
> >> (most importantly, not every 'hit' is a full fledged 'work') becomes 
> >> transformed into a number: "150m licenses!" that gets widely presented 
> >> with a high dose of certainty. i've seen this number in use and it 
> >> *does* make a big impression - but I nevertheless feel transparency is 
> >> important and at least in one point on the net there should be clear 
> >> information about all the caveats surrounding the number.
> > 
> > I agree absolutely.  http://wiki.creativecommons.org/License_statistics
> > contains a highly accurate if very imprecise statement "Estimating
> > license adoption is a *very* inexact science."
> > 
> >> furthermore, i think we could come up with less spectacular (at least 
> >> initially) but more meaningful statistics - like number of journals 
> >> using CC licensing; number of publishers; number of universities; number 
> >> of press agencies (one? - Agencia Brasil - that's still a pretty good 
> >> number after four years, I think)... and so on.
> > 
> > Yep, I encourage you to create http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Metrics
> > or similar to record these ideas.
> > 
> > Another item in the queue is consistently gathering statistics from
> > curators, e.g., those at
> > http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Content_curators -- Flickr alone at
> > 20something million images is pretty impressive.
> > 
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