[cc-community] The iCommons Lab Report
luis at tieguy.org
Thu Nov 9 11:19:23 EST 2006
On 11/9/06, Luis Villa <luis.villa at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/9/06, David Berry <d.berry at sussex.ac.uk> wrote:
> > Re: The iCommons Lab Report
> > I had to laugh when I read the question of the Governance of an 'open and
> > transparent' global community (page 1)- I presume they mean iCommons.
> > Who should iCommons ask for advice about setting up this open structure of
> > governance? Sociologists? Political theorists? Political scientists? Us?
> > Nope. --- They ask Hackers who release a distribution of the Linux operating
> > system called Ubuntu. What?!? And they seem to be taking this advice
> > seriously. I mean like, seriously.
> Ubuntu has built a functional global community of peer producers which
> includes thousands of participants and a reasonably functional
> self-governance system. Frankly, CC has not done that, nor, to the
> best of my knowledge, have any sociologists, political theorists, or
> political scientists.* Is it perfect? No. Is it well informed by over
> a decade of experience in building functional communities which
> combine the feedback of thousands of people with sometimes very
> diverse goals ? Absolutely.
> So I'd not be so quick to dismiss what they've done just because of
> who they are; if anything, they have a lot more relevant applied
> practice than the groups you'd have us look to.
> * I say this as an Ubuntu user with a degree in political science with
> a focus in political theory from one of the best political science
> programs in the US, so I have some reasonable basis for these claims.
I might add that you assume that Ubuntu (and the organizations that
precede and inspire Ubuntu, including Debian, Linux and Apache) have
not gathered input from sociologists, political science, and
economists, when each of those groups have been extensively studied by
all three of those groups and in many cases have learned from the
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