[cc-community] CC licensing

Fred Benenson fred at creativecommons.org
Fri Dec 15 12:15:25 EST 2006


It has been a  while since I've been in San Francisco, but I'm pretty sure
there's a place that does this on Mission around 13th or 14th? They might
just do DVD / VHS conversion, and they didn't seem to be particularly
enlightened with respect to technology / the larger trends here.

Another thing to think about offerring : maybe a service to distribute the
work, or at least get it online? I'd be curious if there is a demand for
helping people get their stuff on Archive.org , as it is kind of a difficult
process if you're trying to do an entire movie. Of course, this extends to
YouTube, etc..


F


On 12/15/06, Jon Phillips <jon at creativecommons.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 19:46 -0500, drew Roberts wrote:
> > On Thursday 30 November 2006 03:27 pm, Jon Phillips wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 15:19 -0500, drew Roberts wrote:
> > > > On Thursday 30 November 2006 02:53 pm, rob at robmyers.org wrote:
> > > > > Quoting Jon Phillips <jon at rejon.org>:
> > > > > > I'm cc'ing the cc-community list to get more opinions. What do
> you
> > > > > > all think about this? Russell is hoping to release 500 labels
> with
> > > > > > more customized designs that consist of "royalty free" clip art,
> his
> > > > > > companies labels (public domain), and he paid designers to lay
> them
> > > > > > out.
> > > > >
> > > > > If the images are governed by a non-CC license then the CC license
> > > > > cannot be the
> > > > > entire agreement so it cannot be applied. I think you're right
> that the
> > > > > work cannot be CC licensed if the work is not clearly pure PD.
> > > > >
> > > > > > I recommend that he uses clip art from Open Clip Art Library
> and/or
> > > > > > spend time to document what is needed and try to pull from
> public
> > > > > > domain and other licensed compatible works.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tell us more about this "Open Clip Art Library", Jon. ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > > Oh, he wants to cc-license this 500 label collection...
> > > > >
> > > > > The licensing of "royalty free", often actually PD work, in
> clipart is
> > > > > an area that really needs clearing up. I get quite annoyed at
> > > > > publishers who claim collective copyright on PD collections then
> try to
> > > > > license individual works in the collection to you. I won't touch
> > > > > anything from "Dover" with a copyright in it for this reason.
> > > >
> > > > I think song publishers do this too.
> > > >
> > > > You can get PD songs, claiming to be the best attempt at the
> original
> > > > works and also claiming a copyright on the individual songs in a
> book of
> > > > collected folk songs for example.
> > >
> > > Yeah, so I guess the proper thing to do would be to go back to the
> > > originals, digitize them and make them available on-line to remove
> this
> > > problem from the situation.
> > >
> > > Anyone wanna help the Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) by
> > > going to the originals, scanning them and making this available as a
> > > resource for the world?
> > >
> > > The same should be done for music/scores and other content in the
> public
> > > domain...which brings me back to the a great business idea I have for
> > > digitization (of the analog world)...like kinkos but for digitization
> of
> > > your non-digital world. Is anyone interested in this?
> >
> > If the business idea results in more Free, preferably copyleft works, I
> would
> > like to hear it.
> > >
> > > Jon
> >
> > all the best,
> >
> > drew
>
> Ok, I added my notes on this idea to my wiki page. Basically, the idea
> is to create a business like FedexKinkos, but for converting your analog
> bits (photos, original works, old documents) into digital bits of
> varying quality for a fee...I think this would be a really solid
> business...anyone want to help start it?
>
> Ok, please add your thoughts and expand on the wiki...I'll then blog it
> to get more involvement...
>
> http://rejon.org/wiki/Digitization_Organization
>
>
> Jon
>
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