[cc-community] CC licensing
Jon Phillips
jon at creativecommons.org
Fri Dec 15 02:36:42 EST 2006
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 19:46 -0500, drew Roberts wrote:
> On Thursday 30 November 2006 03:27 pm, Jon Phillips wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 15:19 -0500, drew Roberts wrote:
> > > On Thursday 30 November 2006 02:53 pm, rob at robmyers.org wrote:
> > > > Quoting Jon Phillips <jon at rejon.org>:
> > > > > I'm cc'ing the cc-community list to get more opinions. What do you
> > > > > all think about this? Russell is hoping to release 500 labels with
> > > > > more customized designs that consist of "royalty free" clip art, his
> > > > > companies labels (public domain), and he paid designers to lay them
> > > > > out.
> > > >
> > > > If the images are governed by a non-CC license then the CC license
> > > > cannot be the
> > > > entire agreement so it cannot be applied. I think you're right that the
> > > > work cannot be CC licensed if the work is not clearly pure PD.
> > > >
> > > > > I recommend that he uses clip art from Open Clip Art Library and/or
> > > > > spend time to document what is needed and try to pull from public
> > > > > domain and other licensed compatible works.
> > > >
> > > > Tell us more about this "Open Clip Art Library", Jon. ;-)
> > > >
> > > > > Oh, he wants to cc-license this 500 label collection...
> > > >
> > > > The licensing of "royalty free", often actually PD work, in clipart is
> > > > an area that really needs clearing up. I get quite annoyed at
> > > > publishers who claim collective copyright on PD collections then try to
> > > > license individual works in the collection to you. I won't touch
> > > > anything from "Dover" with a copyright in it for this reason.
> > >
> > > I think song publishers do this too.
> > >
> > > You can get PD songs, claiming to be the best attempt at the original
> > > works and also claiming a copyright on the individual songs in a book of
> > > collected folk songs for example.
> >
> > Yeah, so I guess the proper thing to do would be to go back to the
> > originals, digitize them and make them available on-line to remove this
> > problem from the situation.
> >
> > Anyone wanna help the Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) by
> > going to the originals, scanning them and making this available as a
> > resource for the world?
> >
> > The same should be done for music/scores and other content in the public
> > domain...which brings me back to the a great business idea I have for
> > digitization (of the analog world)...like kinkos but for digitization of
> > your non-digital world. Is anyone interested in this?
>
> If the business idea results in more Free, preferably copyleft works, I would
> like to hear it.
> >
> > Jon
>
> all the best,
>
> drew
Ok, I added my notes on this idea to my wiki page. Basically, the idea
is to create a business like FedexKinkos, but for converting your analog
bits (photos, original works, old documents) into digital bits of
varying quality for a fee...I think this would be a really solid
business...anyone want to help start it?
Ok, please add your thoughts and expand on the wiki...I'll then blog it
to get more involvement...
http://rejon.org/wiki/Digitization_Organization
Jon
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