[Cc-be] CC music at Fosdem

Severine Dusollier severine.dusollier at fundp.ac.be
Tue Nov 27 12:00:28 EST 2007


Dear Bruno,

If you play only CC-licensed music and can prove 
it, you should not pay anything to the Sabam.
I would suggest you get in contact with the 
responsible of those perceptions at Sabam and 
explain your case.
>The responsible for brussels is :
>Philippe Gontier
>Gérant de la Filiale
>Sabam - Région de Bruxelles Capitale
>Rue d'Arlon 75-77 bte 2
>1040 Bruxelles
>Tel :++32 2 286 84 74
Fax ++32 2 742 24 60
E-mail : agent.bruxelles at sabam.be

If there is any problem I could intervene.
That implies however that you can demonstrate 
that all the music you will play is licensed 
under CC.

BUT (and it is a big BUT), it is true that if 
some artists are members of the Sabam (and of any 
European collecting society with which SABAM 
collaborates to collect copyright royalties), 
those artists are normally not allowed to license 
their works under a CC license. Therefore, for 
those artists, the licenses they put on their 
works is not valid for the Sabam.  THis is a big 
issue right now for CC.
Anyway, I would not raise this point to the 
Sabam, let them find this legal intricacy by 
themselves.

If you have any more questions, you can always call or email me

Séverine
belgium CC project leader



Professor - University of Namur
CRID (Research Center in Computer Law)- Head of the IPR Department

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>Hello list,
>
>The people of Fosdem, the yearly Free & Open Source Software Meeting
>held in Brussels, are considering playing CC licensed music in between
>presentations.
>
>Appearantly, they would need to pay Sabam even if the music they play is
>strictly CC licensed. Is this correct? Or does it only matter for
>artists who are a member of Sabam?
>
>Thanks,
>-- bruno
>bruno at indymedia.be
>
>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject:	Re: [FOSDEM-FIT] Music between talks
>Date:	Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:26:30 +0100
>From:	Jan-Frederik Martens <jfmartens at fosdem.org>
>Reply-To:	fit at lists.fosdem.org
>To:	fit at lists.fosdem.org
>References:	<4740B8CD.6000903 at fosdem.org>
>
>
>
>Pascal Bleser wrote:
>>  But it's just an idea, really. What do you think ?
>
>A legal/financial remark:
>You may think it's crazy, but even if we use Creative Commons or similar
>music, we'll still have to pay the bastards of the 'Billijke Vergoeding':
>
>http://www.debillijkevergoeding.be (down for the moment)
>http://www.unizo.be/viewobj.jsp?article=10014 (dutch)
>http://www.chiro.be/artikel.php?id=672 (dutch)
>
>In short: Sabam needs to be payed for composer/author royalties (does
>not apply here), De billijke vergoeding has to be payed for the performance.
>
>I've had a quite unpleasant e-mail correspondance with them a couple of
>years ago about a similar situation.
>
>JF
>
>
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