[cc-au] It's all about google!

elliott bledsoe e.bledsoe at qut.edu.au
Thu Sep 4 19:42:47 EDT 2008


hey steve

thanks for the heads up. i actually was about to publish my own  
criticisms of the terms of use for chrome when google announced  
changes to it so i was waiting for an updated version of the terms  
before i did. will post a link when the entry is up.

for the record, this email was to point of some of the initiatives  
coming out of google at the moment using creative commons and open  
source software licences. it doesn't mean that creative commons  
australia has an particular "enthusiasm" for google.


_elliott

elliott bledsoe
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On 04/09/2008, at 6. 05PM, Steve Olive wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 03:45:02 pm elliott bledsoe wrote:
>> hello all. it would seem that all the exciting new from creative
>> commons at the moment is coming out of google.
>>
>> not that long ago google code (http://code.google.com) introduce cc
>> licensing, allowing hosted projects to release their code under the
>> attribution and the attribution-share alike licences. find out more
>> here:
>> http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2008/07/introducing-content-license
>> s-on-google.html
>>
>> and of course, google knol (http://knol.google.com), a site for
>> publishing "authoritative" articles, not only allowed users to  
>> license
>> under the attribution and the attribution-noncommercial licences from
>> the moment the service was launched, but it also set attribution as
>> the site default, meaning people have to make a conscious decision to
>> release their material under "all rights reserved."
>>
>> but more recently (as recent as tuesday) google adopted cc on two
>> projects. google announced on the google photo blog
>> (http://googlephotos.blogspot.com ) that google's desktop photo  
>> management
>> software picasa (http://picasa.google.com ) now includes rights  
>> management
>> as part of the settings. users can maintain "all rights reserved"  
>> copyright
>> or apply any of the standard cc licensing suite. a user can define a
>> default cc licence for all of their work and manage individual  
>> photos on a
>> case-by-case basis. of particular interest is the licence chooser  
>> that
>> google has developed for picasa. i've blogged about it at
>> http://ccelliott.blogspot.com/2008/09/googles-picasa-photo-software-now.htm
>> l
>>
>> also on tuesday, google started a public relations campaign about
>> their new web browser google chrome (http://google.com/chrome).  
>> chrome
>> is an open source web browser released under the bsd licence
>> (http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php ). boasting a  
>> whole new
>> experience of the web it incorporates google's trade mark minimal  
>> chic in
>> its design with nifty features tucked away in convenient places.
>> unfortunately for anyone not on windows, it is only available for  
>> pc at the
>> moment.
>>
>> but what is interesting about chrome was google's decision to release
>> the pr material under a creative commons attribution-noncommercial-no
>> derivative works licence. as i said on my blog, an interesting
>> marketing campaign by google: get scott mccloud to create a comic  
>> book
>> explaining your new project using cartoon characters of your actual
>> project team talking about the project. stick the comic and the comic
>> only in an envelop and post it to jouranlists. done. with the cc
>> licence on it, the campaign will spread itself. i've blogged about
>> their use of cc for the pr campaign here:
>> http://ccelliott.blogspot.com/2008/09/start-viral-campaign-googles-pr-for-n
>> ew.html more about chrome here:
>> http://ccelliott.blogspot.com/2008/09/where-for-art-thou-chromeo.html
>>
>>
>>
>> _elliott
>>
>> elliott bledsoe
>> project officer
>>
>>
>>
>> +61 7 3138 9597
>> 0405059367
>> elliott at creativecommons.org.au
>> http://creativecommons.org.au
>>
>> my cc blog: http://ccelliott.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>
>> The Australia Research Council Centre of Excellence for Creative
>> Industries and Innovation funds research into Creative Commons in
>> Australia through the ccClinic and the CC and Open Content Licensing
>> (OCL) Models research programs.
>> www.cci.edu.au
>>
>>
>>
>> Creative Commons Australia is hosted by Queensland University of
>> Technology at the QUT Faculty of Law. It is a research project of the
>> Intellectual Property: Knowledge, Culture and Economy research stream
>> of the Law and Justice Research Centre.
>> www.law.qut.edu.au
>>
>>
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>
> You may want to re-think your enthusiasm for everything Google. See
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/03/google_chrome_eula_sucks/  
> for full
> report.
>
> Basically from the EULA:
>
>    "11. Content licence from you
>
>    11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights that you already  
> hold in
> Content that you submit, post or display on or through the Services.  
> By
> submitting, posting or displaying the content, you give Google a  
> perpetual,
> irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free and non-exclusive licence to  
> reproduce,
> adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly  
> display and
> distribute any Content that you submit, post or display on or  
> through the
> Services. This licence is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to  
> display,
> distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain  
> Services
> as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services."
>
> Anything you submit post or display using Chrome you give away to  
> Google for
> ever.
>
> So, my question is: How will they know this? Does this mean  
> everything you
> post, upload or display is also transmitted to Google's servers?
>
> How does this fit with Google's "Do no evil" ethic?
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Steve
> Bathurst Computer Solutions
> URL: www.bathurstcomputers.com.au
> e-mail: steve at bathurstcomputers.com.au
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