[Biblical-languages] RE: [hebrew] Hebrew marks in ISO 8957 but not
in Unicode
Jony Rosenne
rosennej at qsm.co.il
Thu Oct 2 00:47:24 EDT 2003
The Israeli NB had asked ISO to cancel this standard. I doubt it will make a
case to the contrary.
Jony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hebrew-bounce at unicode.org
> [mailto:hebrew-bounce at unicode.org] On Behalf Of Peter Kirk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:15 PM
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> Hebrew Computing list
> Cc: Elaine Keown; Michael Everson
> Subject: [hebrew] Hebrew marks in ISO 8957 but not in Unicode
>
>
> I just came across the following in
> http://wwwold.dkuug.dk/JTC1/SC2/WG2/docs/n2584, which is a
> document from
> Michael Everson (I presume he wrote the "Response") dated
> from May this
> year.
>
> > /ISO 8957:1996 Hebrew alphabet coded character set for bibliographic
> > information interchange/
> >
> > / /
> >
> > /This standard has a small repertoire of cantillation marks
> which have
> > yet to be added to ISO/IEC 10646. JTC1 is waiting for
> Israel to make a
> > case for these, as they did when the TC46 standard was under
> > development. If no case can be made, TC46 may have little
> choice but
> > to give up support for them. /
> >
> >
> >
> > *Response*: It remains the case that experts on cantillation marks
> > have not made a definitive mapping of existing ISO/IEC
> 10646. In the
> > absence of such input little progress can be made.
> >
> > / /
> >
> These additional marks seem to be not so much cantillation marks as
> non-Tiberian pointing. Further relevant documents include
> http://anubis.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc2/open/02n3133.pdf,
> http://std.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc2/wg2/docs/n1749.pdf,
> http://std.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc2/wg2/docs/n2498.pdf, and
> http://anubis.dkuug.dk/JTC1/SC2/WG2/docs/n2462.doc. In the
> last of these
> I read:
>
> > NCITS/L2 and the Unicode Consortium recommend that the addition of
> > characters from Table 2 of ISO 8957:1996 be deferred. This
> will allow
> > experts on cantillation marks and historic pointing and
> scholars from
> > Israel and from other countries to clarify the nature of specific
> > marks, and to determine the correct mappings for certain TC 46
> > characters. This will allow a complete proposal for any missing
> > characters to be developed.
>
>
> Perhaps members of these lists can help to provide the input which is
> being sought. The best forum for this is probably the Unicode Hebrew
> list, hebrew at unicode.org or send mail with subject "subscribe
> hebrew" to
> ecartis at unicode.org.
>
> --
> Peter Kirk
> peter at qaya.org (personal)
> peterkirk at qaya.org (work)
> http://www.qaya.org/
>
>
>
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