[BL] Setting up an FTP Server
ariadne at ausreg.com
Sun Mar 4 17:59:59 EST 2007
On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 01:04:07 +0000
Lee Forrest <lforrestster at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 01:00:53PM +1000, Ron Clarke wrote:
> > Lee,
> > This may sound like a sily question, but why are you looking to
> > run an ftp server from your home ? Apart from proving that you can do
> > it, what is the point ?
> Control. I run the OS that runs the server. I can do anything I want
> whenever I want.
OK. That's a fair enough answer. :)
> Sorry. That's nonsense. You don't have any where _near_ the control and
> freedom that I would have doing it the way I am proposing.
No, I don't have the control that you are seeking, that's true. But I don't need that much control for my purposes.
> I despise web interfaces. Clumsy and limited and slow. Intolerable with
> a dialup connection.
Actually, it's not. I have had those domains for nearly two years, but I have only moved from dial-up in the last 4 months. And the web interface concerned is not the same as those awful baby-level things like the Homestead hosting service has. It is perfectly useable from dial-up.
> > I have two domains, and a couple of subdomains, ftp
> > accounts and stuff - its not difficult, and it a bloody sight
> > cheaper than the sort of ISP accounts you have been talking
> > about. And my stuff is available for download on a relatively
> > fast server.
> Sure. But you also have a fast connection.
I do now, from here. But the hosting server has a fast connection to the internet.
> What does _that_ cost you?
Do you mean the domain hosting or my ADSL connection.
Domain hosting is less than Aus$100 per year - less than US$78 per year.
My ADSL actually works out cheaper than dial-up, because I no longer pay for the local calls to my ISP, which used to be the major part of my telephone bill.
> > OTOH: Maybe you have a reason for wanting to keep the server physically
> > at hand ?
> Once again, it's a matter of control and freedom. You can administer those
> servers within the limitations set by the provider.
Which suit me just fine.
> You don't control the underlying OS.
No, but I don't need to.
> You don't have root priveleges.
Yes, I do.
> You get what you pay for, eh?
As with everything.
> And part of what you are paying for is the easy way out.
No, not really.
> The route I am considering taking will force me to really develop my sysadmin skills.
They certainly will, and good for you. My field of work is in science, chemistry in particular, and the regulations and laws pertaining to thos fields. I have enough sysadmin time to keep me happy with my own machines here, where it is still fun.
> Basically, you have just learned to use a web interface, which is probably
> proprietary software that you won't encounter anywhere else.
As I said, it is not that sort of control panel. I guess you would have to see what I mean before passing judgement. I have built my websites using ftp for the most part. The only stuff I use from the control panel is to see my site stats, to make/unmake email accounts, and to set up sub-domain links. Everything else is done by hand. I write my own web pages with a text editor, I make most of my own graphics, I certainly produce my own MIDI and MP3 and OGG files, and I write my own programs which I make available for free,
except for the directories that I have made available for BasicLinux and for Arachne beta-testing.
And I do most of it in DOS.
> All that being said, there is much merit to your suggestion. If I could
> find a provider that didn't require the use of a web interface, I'd
> consider it.
Go find one, they are out there.
> I am wondering why you didn't post the url(s) to this wonderful service
> you are talking about.
It's not a wonderful service, it's a standard (budget) hosting service.
The one I use is http://www.australiacheapdomains.com.au for registering a domain name, and they link into planetdomain - both belonging to Primus I think.
http://www.ausreg.com and http://www.tadpoletunes.com
with subdirectories such as http://delamere.tadpoletunes.com
But, Lee, if you need to have total control, then this is not for you.
AUSREG Consultancy http://www.ausreg.com
Tadpole Tunes http://www.tadpoletunes.com
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