[BL] Copying with 2-button mouse in Xvesa without Xconfig
keesan at sdf.lonestar.org
Fri Mar 11 11:02:27 EST 2005
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org wrote:
> sindi keesan wrote:
>> startxt gave me Xvesa with no window manager or rxvt.
> That's right. It's waiting for a window manager, etc.
> to be sent from the other system.
This time I did startxt on client (got X on grey pattern),
then I typed
rxvt - I got one of those on the client screen
icewm - I got that too, in addition to the rxvt
opera - I got opera (no remote connection - not dialled in)
This is much simpler than the rxvt& rxvt -e icewm which I have been using
to get into Xvesa with minimal icewm (no menu, no apps).
I wonder if I could just do Xvesa on one terminal of a non-connected
computer and then switch terminals and type icewm and then opera.
Yes, I can type Xvesa, then switch to vt2 and type rxvt& and switch back
to X and see rxvt. From vt2 I can type exec icewm& (I still have not
figured out quite what & does - I cannot manage to get rxvt and icewm and
opera to the point where exiting opera leaves me a usable rxvt). If I had
done this having typed startxt instead of Xvesa I could then type opera
and use it from the server.
>> What is it about startxt script that lets you run
>> programs from the other computer in X on this computer?
> Have a look (both the startx and startxt scripts are
> quite short). You will see the -ac parameter in startxt.
> It opens Xvesa to remote traffic.
>> What does export DISPLAY do?
> It sends X output to the Xserver at the specified address
> (and gets input from that Xserver).
>> Where does the remote connection come from?
>> From the system where you type "export DISPLAY=etc"
>> Do I also need to run some demon?
> Nope. Just an Xserver on one end and some X executables
> on the other.
>> 1. Set up ethernet (insmod rtl8139,
>> ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 or 1.2 on both computers).
> ping to confirm your connection.
I did that - cables needed to be pushed harder into the connector that we
cross-wired to accept two non-twisted ones which we have lots of.
>> 2. On server export DEVICE=192.168.1.7:0
(not DEVICE) - why did someone give '7' as a sample address?
> You've got no 192.168.1.7. You did ifconfigs for
> 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2
Do I even need the ifconfig for server - 1.1?
>> (What does this all mean?)
> The output from X executables run on that system will
> be send to 192.168.1.7
>> 3. On client startxt - I get grey pattern with X.
> What's the address of that client?
> Unless it's 192.168.1.7 it will receive nothing.
>> I tried variations (startxt on server, export on client).
> Don't get confused with clients and servers.
> (1) configure your network
> (2) startxt on one system
> (3) on the other system do:
> ' export DISPLAY=address_of_system_running_startxt:0
> (4) on the same system as (3) execute: icewm
Since I set up icewm without a menu (minimalist) rxvt (enter) icewm
>> If I got this working would it be possible to run X at
>> the same time on both computers?
> You can if you want, but it is not necessary. You don't
> need X running on the system that executes icewm. It
> seems kinda strange running icewm on a system without X,
> but it works.
This way two people could run Opera over the same dialin connection at the
Can you telnet from one terminal and run X from another, in both cases
accessing the programs and/or modem connection on the server?
My partner wants to telnet in to our bbs on both terminals at once, with
no need to Alt-F1/Alt-F2 to switch, and do a 'talk' with each other. I
already have a two-monitor setup on one computer but only one keyboard.
We could do this with two laptop computers and one modem.
Or with the dumb terminal method (serial cable) I could use as client a
386 laptop computer with 1MB RAM, and DOS and kermit on a boot disk and no
hard drive. Or use an actual dumb terminal - we have a portable one (plus
two dead ones made a long time ago in our city - Ann Arbor Ambassador).
Of course no X this way, just CLI. Fine for reading email, links,
practicing shell scripts while someone else uses the computer for other
Fun. I have to try httpd some time soon. Any other features of BL3 you
suggest learning on?
More information about the BasLinux