I notice that in both examples a dagesh follows a patax as expected. Isaac Fried, Boston University On Apr 21, 2011, at 4:10 AM, Pere Porta wrote: > I'm afraid I know none in the qatal hiphil. > But I know a pair which are similar, in the Qal: > > --MT.Y (Gn 19:19) > --$T.Y (Ex 23:31) > > Regards > > Pere Porta