if at math.bu.edu
Wed Mar 10 19:28:28 EST 2010
רעה is not 'graze' and not 'feed', it is 'roam freely'.
בתר is 'cut into separate pieces'.
פתר is 'solved', which in English means 'loosened', and so is פשר
אסר= עצר = אצר is 'accumulate, hoard, hold together, hold
Isaac Fried, Boston University
On Mar 10, 2010, at 1:16 PM, K Randolph wrote:
> Your theory works only with cherry picked data, and then even
> sometimes by
> misrepresenting that cherry picked data.
> For example, you reference רעה which you misrepresent as having
> the meaning
> of ‘to graze’ while its uses in Tanakh show its meaning of ‘to
> feed’ of
> which grazing is one way to feed ruminants. It is used also in
> with feeding other people and even oneself.
> בדר not Biblical Hebrew
> בזר to allot
> בסר a noun, unripe grapes
> בצר to remove, be removed, e.g. grapes from a vine, abilities ⇒
> to make or
> be inaccessible, fortify (inaccessible place)
> בשר to report, often a good report
> בתר to section, cut into pieces
> פדר noun, uncertain meaning, rumen, stomach, ??
> פזר to distribute, disperse (push away)
> פטר to open forth, release (from duties), in order to come out
> (in a place
> where there is irrigation, a person who is opening forth or
> releasing waters
> is stealing from his neighbors) hence to slip out (escape)
> פצר to beg hence to urge
> פשר a noun, used only once, explanation
> פתר to interpret (a dream)
> If the presence of ‘ר’ in a word “indicates reference to an
> material state” as you claim, then what about:
> אבר to soar
> אדר to have splendor
> אחר to delay
> אטר to restrict, prevent access to
> עצר to restrain, in the sense of keeping from an action, holding
> פגר to collapse from exhaustion
> שׂקר to apply mascara (is not applying makeup deceptive, hence
> connected to
> the following?)
> שׁקר to deceive by any means
> I can go on and on, but it should be clear by now that the presence
> of ‘ר’
> in a word does not indicate “reference to an aggregated material
> state” as
> you claim. This is why your theory doesn’t convince. When one
> looks at all
> the data, not just your cherry picked data, then your theory falls
> And when I am a self-taught scholar, you can’t accuse me of
> following the
> herd of scholastic orthodoxy (which I don’t even know).
> Karl W. Randolph.
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:58 AM, Isaac Fried <if at math.bu.edu> wrote:
>> I will give you the gist of it. First, I believe that the presence of
>> the letter R in a Hebrew root indicates reference to an aggregated
>> material state. For instance, the verb, RAAH, ראה 'see',
>> essentially means 'to separate, differentiate, and distinguish the
>> discerned details', while the verb RAAH, רעה, 'graze', essentially
>> means 'to roam freely'.
>> The root PTR, פתר, 'solve, unravel, clear-up', essentially means
>> 'break-up, or relieve, a difficulty'.
>> This root is a member of the family of roots
>> בדר, בזר, בסר, בצר, בשר, בתר
>> פדר, פזר, פטר, פצר, פשר, פתר
>> all of the same basic meaning.
>> Isaac Fried, Boston University
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