[b-hebrew] Lexical question
Isaac Fried
if at math.bu.edu
Thu Jul 30 23:24:40 EDT 2009
The root $Q like the root SG means elevated.
Isaac Fried, Boston University
On Jul 30, 2009, at 11:15 PM, Ishinan wrote:
>
> Karl W. Randolph. wrote:
>
> To All: Recently I went through an exercise in lexicography, so I
> thought I'd share what I did.
>
> As I was reading through Proverbs 28:15 for the nth time, reading
> DB $WQQ, I finally said "This is enough! This doesn't really mean
> that." What I referred to was the term $WQQ, which can be either
> from $WQ or $QQ. Yet when I looked at dictionaries, both terms seem
> to have almost the same meaning, centering around pouring out.
>
> The first step was to research bears a bit. What I found out is
> that bears spend almost all their time either sleeping or foraging
> for food. And when they are foraging for food, watch out! They are
> dangerous. That little human may just be that tasty treat that
> helps get enough energy to wake up after hibernation. Now I don't
> know about ancient Israeli bears, but if they were anything like
> northern European bears, humans were considered fair game. The
> picture I got from the verse is of a bear padding about, looking
> for food.
>
> Notice, I am not looking at the bear as a subject, but as an actor,
> concentrating on his actions.
>
> The next step was to look up $WQ and $QQ in a concordance. Under
> $WQ, I found Joel 2:24 and 4:13, both in the Hiphil where wine/oil
> presses cause the fluids to come out. Hence the idea of pouring
> listed above.
>
> All the other uses which from form appear to be Qal, Piel or Pilel
> were of people, locusts and other legged creatures. The contexts
> indicate that these subjects were out and about, usually for the
> purpose of acquisition, such as through purchase, foraging and/or
> looting.
>
> Looking at one derivative, $WQ meaning city street lined with shops
> and stalls, I get a picture of people wandering around the stores
> getting their supplies. Again the idea of being out and about.
>
> So the final conclusion I draw is that the verb refers to being
> out, usually for the purpose of acquiring stuff.
>
> Previously I had not listed $WQ "shin (leg)" as a derivative of the
> same root as the verb $WQ, because I could not see the meaning
> connection between "pour" and "shin". The connection of a shared
> form is not enough to show a shared etymology, at least not in my
> mind. I need to see a meaning connection as well. But now, when I
> see a verbal use indicating creatures with legs being out and
> about, i.e. "legging around", now I see a meaning connection as
> well. Only now am I able to recognize an etymological
> connection as well.
>
> In closing, my revised dictionary listing now says:
>
>
> ???? to be out, often for the purpose to acquire stuff, through
> foraging, purchase or looting ? ???? being out and about ? being
> all over the place (like locusts in a field) Is 33:4 ??, ????, ???
> shin (bone) (? the idea of being out, walking around "legging
> about"), an animal's right rear leg given as part of a feast to
> show honor, ???? ?? ??? idiom, meaning "dead", for people who lie
> with their legs so twisted can only be dead, it is very
> uncomfortable for the living, ???? city street lined with stalls
> and stores ? market where people are out and about among the sales
> stalls and stores to acquire stuff
>
> (I hope all the symbols come through.)
>
> Since I just went over this definition during this week, the steps
> are still fresh in my mind and I thought it might be of interest to
> others just where I get my definitions from. Most of the times,
> however, I have no problem with the dictionary meanings I found in
> other dictionaries, so I use those.
>
> What do you all think?
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>
> Ishinan: My suggestion is to apply the comparative method among
> other daughter Semitic languages (such as Akkadian, Ugaritic,
> Arabic, Ge?ez, etc.) to your examples. Consult the respective
> Proto-Semitic etymologies. You'll actually discover that the
> examples you gave above are homonyms.
>
> I have found that sometimes the entries in Strong's Exhaustive
> Concordance of the Bible can be misleading.
>
> For example:
>
> 7783 shuwq overflow, water.
> 7784 shuwq shook street.
> 7785 showq shoke the (lower) leg/shin.
>
> These are not related. Hope this helps.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ishinan B. Ishibashi
>
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