[b-hebrew] Verb Stems Confusion
LM Barre
l_barre at yahoo.com
Thu Feb 5 19:01:21 EST 2009
What do you mean by "word pairs?" Do you mean words that are used in parallelism? There are many, many word pairs if that is what you mean.. You will not find a book on that I fear.
Lloyd Barré
--- On Thu, 2/5/09, Olivier Randrianjaka <rev_oli at hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Olivier Randrianjaka <rev_oli at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Verb Stems Confusion
To: jaihare at gmail.com, "b-hebrew Forum" <b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 1:25 PM
Hi all of you!!
I am looking for the most recent works concerning Word pairs studies in
Biblical as well as in ancient Semitic literatures, CAN ANYONE HELP?
Thanks a lot.
Olivier Randrianjaka
PhD Student at
Mission School and TheologyStavanger, Norway
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 15:02:42 +0200> From: jaihare at gmail.com> To:
b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Verb Stems Confusion>
> John,> > I have a feeling you're going to continue to be
disappointed in your> wait. What you're asking is how to translate FORMS,
but forms do not> have translations. You cannot translate the hiphil form
into English.> It doesn't *mean* anything. You need to ask a question
about a> specific word that's found in the form in the Tanakh. That's
a much> better question.> > We can translate words based on (1) form,
(2) context and (3) other> uses of the same word in different contexts. We
cannot translate a> form itself into English. I don't understand the
problem. Perhaps it's> one of exposure. You need to start exposing
yourself to actual WORDS> in Hebrew as they fall into these various forms.
Once you read these> forms (binyanim) with actual roots and context, it will
make sense to> you.> > I believe that all serious grammars of ivrit
mikra'it (Biblical> Hebrew) treat these minor binyanim at some point.
I'm sure they give> examples and context for each one. I don't have a
biblical Hebrew> grammar with me at the moment, but if you look through
whichever one> you have, I'm sure you can find references. Maybe someone
here can> provide a reference for you.> > Essentially, what I'm
saying is that you should not ask how to> translate a binyan, since that
doesn't even make sense. נכנס /nichnas/> NKNS is a niphal form
meaning "he entered," which translates nothing> like נאכל
/ne'echal/ N'KL "it was eaten." There is no standard>
translation for a binyan. It depends on the root and the meaning in a> given
context. I hope this makes sense to you.> > Regards,> Jason Hare>
Rehovot, Israel> > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Brak
<Brak at neo.rr.com> wrote:> > Hello all,> >> > Still
waiting for an answer to how to translate the following forms, and> > if
any are the same as the "big 7":> > qal passive, pilel, tifil,
polpal, hotpaal, hishtafel, and nitpael> >> > Thanks in advance.>
>> > B"H> > John Steven> >> > "He who makes
a mistake is still our friend; he who adds to or shortens> > a melody is
still our friend; but he who violates a rhythm unawares can> > no longer
be our friend."> > -Ishaq Ibn Ibrahim 767-850 CE.> >> >
"If you don't behave as you believe, you will end by believing as
you> > behave."> > -Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen> >>
> "The difference between the intelligent man and the simpleton is not
the> > correctness of their decisions, but rather the cunning sinner can
more> > skillfully defend and justify his iniquity."> > - Rabbi
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