leviny1 at mail.biu.ac.il
Sun Sep 7 00:54:48 EDT 2008
I'll re-state the problem. While (Mount) Hermon is well-known and appears quite a few times in the Bible, the specific form "Baal-Hermon" appears in ONLY two sources, and both are problematic:
The first is in the boundary description of Judges 3:3: instead of Joshua's "Baal-Gad under Mount Hermon", Judges has "Baal-Hermon". Were this the ONLY source, there would be little doubt that this is a "ghost name" created by Judges' abbreviation of Josh. 13:5
However, there's 1 Chr. 5. The geographical context is close enough to make it unlikely that this is a different place with the same name (unless there's another Hermon as well...). Where did Chr.'s description come from? If it is taken from a source that is ultimately independent of Judges 3:3, that would be evidence of "Baal-Hermon" being a real place, which would force a re-asessment of the realationship between Judges 3:3 and Josh. 13:5 (that the former is NOT just an abbreviation of the latter). If not, then we have to understand why Chr. took only that term from Judges 3:3, in a description that seems related to Deut. 3.
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To: Yigal Levin ; b-hebrew ; biblical-studies at yahoogroups.com ; biblicalist at yahoogroups.com
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Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Baal-Hermon
I'm wondering if BAAL-HERMON is referring to the high places that exist on top of Mt Hermon. Or maybe the NIV rendering is correct and take those vavs as appositional.
1 Chronicles 5:23 The people of the half-tribe of Manasseh were numerous; they settled in the land from Bashan to Baal Hermon, that is, to Senir (Mount Hermon).
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From: Yigal Levin <leviny1 at mail.biu.ac.il>
> Baal-Hermon appears in the boundary of the land not conquered by Joshua,
> according to the abbreviated description in Judges 3:3: "From Mount Baal-Hermon
> unto Lebo-Hamath". In the more complete text in Josh. 13:5, the same boundary is
> described as stretching "from Baal-Gad under Mount Hermon unto Lebo-Hamath."
> While some scholars have attempted to explain the name "Baal-Hermon" as
> designating the peak of Mount Hermon, overlooking Baal-Gad itself (probably in
> the southern Baqa', near Hasbayeh), most assume either that the names are
> synonymous, or even that the version in Judges is erroneous, a "ghost
> place-name" caused by the abbreviated boundary-list. However Baal-Hermon is also
> given as part of the bounda ry of the Transjordanian half-tribe of Menasseh in 1
> Chr. 5:23: "from Bashan unto Baal-Hermon and Senir and Mount Hermon". This could
> be seen either as evidence of there actually being such a place, which was known
> to either the Chronicler or his immediate source, even though
> it is not mentioned anywhere else, or of the fact that the Chronicler or his
> immediate source, when composing his description of the Menassite territory,
> chose to combine this particular element from Judges 3:3 with the other names
> that seem more based on Deut. 3:8-13 (which is the only other place in which
> Hermon, Senir and Bashan are listed together, in a description of the
> Transjordanian tribes).
> So which is it: is there such a place (and where is it), or did the Chronicler
> pick up a "ghost-name" from an unexpected source?
> Yigal Levin
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