[b-hebrew] Dove's dung
Isaac Fried
if at math.bu.edu
Fri Sep 5 15:56:20 EDT 2008
It seems to me that DIBYONIM is from the root DB, which is but a
variant of the root ZB, 'ooze, drip', eventually 'pile up'.
Isaac Fried, Boston University
On Sep 5, 2008, at 2:32 PM, David Kolinsky wrote:
>
> The root for the word, (dibyown), is D.B.H which is analogous to DB
> in Arabic meaning to crawl, creep, move slowly, go on all fours,
> fill, pervade, invade, stream in, rush in; bear, sand hill, tiny
> animal, insect. Considering that the Ktiv is Chiryon which is
> related to the word Ch.R./A (/A = aleph) which means excrement, the
> connection to excrement is on solid ground. Therefore, I suggest
> that both words most likely mean "Scarab or Dung Beetle" which in
> times of famine would most definately be eaten and nutritious.
>
> D kolinsky
>
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> Subject: [b-hebrew] What is that to be eaten 2 Kings 6:25?
> To: b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org, Karl Randolf <kwrandolph at email.com>
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> Karl & al.,
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> The word in question (dibyown) is of course a hapax legomenon which
> does not
> seem to be derived from any obvious Hebrew roots. The "doves dung" is
> the ketib. The LXX translates this as dove's dung (kabou koprou
> peristerwn). However even if we take the ketib and LXX at face
> value, that does
> not mean people were actually eating doves dung. In Mexico and
> the US
> Southwest there is a popular confection called "churros", a long
> narrow lump of fried dough sprinkled with sugar and cinnamon. It
> is possible to
> translate "churros" as dung although there are more graphic and
> accurate words available in English language. The name is merely
> reflective of
> the general appearance of the food, particularly when it made by
> hand, and
> perhaps the fact it an inexpensive food popular with the poorer
> strata of
> society. Perhaps "doves dung" is something similar.
>
> Jack Tladatsi
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