[b-hebrew] chalal - perforate/pierce?/KRH
Isaac Fried
if at math.bu.edu
Thu Sep 6 14:03:53 EDT 2007
Shoshana,
You are right, but for diversity there is a kaf and there is a xet.
The letter kaf is merely the letter xet turned upon its side. A he is
a xet with a disconnected left leg, a qof is a he with an elongated
leg, and gimel is a cross legged he.
Isaac Fried, Boston University
On Sep 6, 2007, at 10:41 AM, rosewalk at concentric.net wrote:
>
> Except that Kolel - the word meaning to include, is spelled with a
> "kaf",
> while the other words you are mentioning are spelled with a "chet"
>
> Shoshanna
>
>
>
> In a message dated 9/6/2007 1:04:17 AM Central Daylight Time,
> if at math.bu.edu
> writes:
>
> 5. The basic meaning of XALAL is also 'to include, to enclose, to
> encompass, to comprise, to surround, to generate', except that the
> enclosed may be here but empty space, as just pointed out by Shoshana
> Walker. Thus XALON, 'window' is the cavity or the open space defined
> by the surrounding wall, and such is the XALIL, 'flute', the
> cylindrical [GALIL] hollow wind-pipe, and also the MXILAH [actually
> MKILAH], 'tunnel', burrowed and included [GLULAH, KLULAH] in the
> depth of the earth. XLL in the sense of 'profane' may mean 'devoid or
> empty of merit'. Indeed, its opposite QD$, which is but a variant of
> GD$, means 'packed solid with supreme value'. XALAL in the sense of
> 'cadaver', may mean 'rolled or bent over' or 'drained of life'.
> Similarly 'MAXALAH', 'illness', may mean a lacuna or an ill
> inclusion.
> In conclusion: MXOLAL of Isaiah 53:5 is certainly not 'pierced'.
> For a more detailed discussion of these roots look up
> _www.hebrewetymology.com_ (http://www.hebrewetymology.com) .
>
>
>
>
> JW:
> This reminds me of the KRH "controversy" in 22:17. KRH clearly has a
> primary meaning of "dig" in the Jewish Bible and by usage it is
> always
> shown as a Creative act. Yet some would argue that "pierced" is the
> proper Translation even though the Hebrew words that do actually
> mean "pierced" usually have a Destructive meaning. There seems to be
> some Motivation outside of Translation which is looking for
> "pierced".
> Why do you think that is Isaac?
>
>
>
> Joseph Wallack
>
>
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