[b-hebrew] Eccles 2:3
B. M. Rocine
brocine at twcny.rr.com
Sun Apr 29 13:19:59 EDT 2007
Interesting question. I can't answer it exactly, but I can ask a
suggestive question of my own. Did you notice the root play going on
nsh + 2ms suffix = test you
simkah = mirth
sxq = laughing
mshk = drawing out
siklut = folly
It sounds like the stuttering of a drunken man! ;-)
I think what ever loose associations may come about as a result of the
root play should be allowed, including your nsk.
Yigal Levin wrote:
> Could this lim$ok mean "to annoint", from NSK (nun-samekh-kaph), with a sin
> replasing the samekh, perhaps influenced by M$X (mem-shin-xet), since both
> words could have that meaning? We could then read something like "I wandered
> by my heart to annoint my flesh with wine", as one of the foolish things
> that he did before discovering what was wise.
> Yigal Levin
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>> Hi Pastor Ron,
>> The first clause of the Hebrew Masoretic Text reads:
>> tartiy belibbit limshok bayyayin 'et besariy
>> notice _'et besariy_ at the end. It means "my flesh" and is the direct
>> object of the infinitive _limshok_, so the entire Hebrew clause has,
>> word-by word
>> I-explored in-my-heart to-pull with-wine my-flesh.
>> I could take take the idiom "to pull my flesh" to mean "to test my
>> capabilities" or "to see what my body could take."
>> There is some dispute over the Hebrew word _limshok_, the thinking that
>> it should be read _lismok_ "to sustain" or _lesammmex_ "to make happy,"
>> but I think it reads pretty well as _limshok_.
>> My translation: "I ventured to test my capabilities with wine."
>> Hoping to help.
>> Ron Snider wrote:
>>> I would like to get some input on how one views the syntax of the
>>> infinitive construct of MASHAK and how it is to be translated. The
>>> normal root meaning seems to be to pull, drag or draw out. It can come
>>> to mean to extend or prolong, but it that is the case here, it would
>>> seem to indicate extended drinking sessions...I have no problem with the
>>> fact that Solomon may have drank and drank to excess, but is that what
>>> is in view? As far as the syntax, the NAS understands the infinitive to
>>> mean how to do something, but it could also indicate purpose I think.
>>> Any insights are appreciated.
>>> Ron Snider,
>>> Makarios Bible Church
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