[b-hebrew] Kamatz katan; Ashkenazi pronunciation; was: Translating

Vadim Cherny VadimCherny at mail.ru
Sat Oct 7 17:38:44 EDT 2006


> On 07/10/2006 23:10, Vadim Cherny wrote:
> >> So, it is *a fact* that  there are no proofs that
> >> WAYYIQTOLs existed before the Masoretes. I did not discuss speculation
and
> >> beliefs; I discussed morphological evidence.
> >> Rolf Furuli
> >>
> >
> > It is very much possible that the Masoretes invented wayyiqtol. They had
a
> > good reason to do that.
> > As I see it, tense forms developed as follows:
> > - qatal for the past tense, weqatal for the future
> > - new FT form yiqtol
>
> Indeed? When exactly do you think that YIQTOL was "new"? At any time
> relevant to biblical Hebrew?

yiqtol is a new form compared to weqatal

> > at that point, there were two forms of the future tense, and one form
for
> > much more common past tense. Someone should have got a bright idea of
> > developing a form for the past tense symmetrical to weqatal. Thus,
wayiqtol
> > is likely an artifical form.
> >
> > Could the MT wayiqtols been originally weyiqtols. Very much! ...
>
> I accept "Could". I do not accept "*a fact*". Speculate as much as you
> like, but speculation does not imply fact.

Peter, you need to learn logic. There are no facts in sciences other than
mathematics. Everything, even what we consider observation, is a conjecture.

> > A note to Peter: logically, Rolf correctly equates absence of positive
> > evidence with negative evidence. That is the way of proof in all
sciences
> > but mathematics. Perhaps some future experiments would invalidate the
speed
> > of light limit, but before that, we take that limit for proven. Science
> > develops through refutations, not positive proofs.
> >
> Vadim, your idea of science is very limited. This is not how science
> works. The "speed of light" limit is not an experimental one but a
> theoretical one.

Oh, would you like a discussion on logic or semiotics? Welcome!
Every theory is a conjecture not yet refuted and that passes Occam's razor.

Vadim Cherny




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