[b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!
kgraham0938 at comcast.net
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Fri Oct 6 13:58:24 EDT 2006
Yeah, I thought it was a little bit of a stretch as well but I think these things are interesting none the less. I don't think I agree with it but it is something that I considered.
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Kelton Graham
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From: "Yonah Mishael" <yonahmishael at gmail.com>
> On 10/5/06, B. M. Rocine wrote:
> > Hi Kelton,
> >
> > Re Gen 2:25, they came into being naked. That means from the start,
> > from their being created, they were naked. The verse is not just saying
> > that they were naked (read verbless clause, sheneyhem `arumiym). It is
> > stating that they came about or came into being naked (read wayyiqtol
> > clause, vayyihyu sheneyhem `arumiym).
> >
> > Re 2Chr 20:25, we can read it "three days transpired (vayyihyu)
> > plundering the spoil..." or "Those plundering the spoil did their thing
> > (vayyihyu) three days..." I think the word order recommends the former.
> >
> > Shalom,
> > Bryan
> >
>
> WOW. I read Karl's comment above as well as yours, Bryan, but I think
> that this is stretching. This verse is not saying that "God created
> them naked," althought this is surely how they came to be naked. It is
> simply saying that "they were naked" as part of the story line because
> it became important that both (1) the serpent was also (RWM (in this
> instance, "crafty" or the like) and (2) their nakedness became the
> sign to them that they knew good and evil. Hence, God asking them, MY
> HDYS LK KY (YRM )TH [×× ×××× ×× ×× ×¢××¨× ×ת×] -- "Who has told
> you that
> you [were] naked?" I cannot agree that there is any sense of
> "becoming" in Genesis 2:25 when it was announced that the two were
> naked.
>
> The fact that they were both naked and "felt no shame" L) YTB$$W was
> part of the main storyline, and this explains why HYH was elevated and
> placed in the WYQTWL form. This form elevates what would normally be
> only a verbless clause into primary material and separates it from
> what came before ("for this reason a man shall leave his father and
> mother etc....").
>
> Regards,
> Yonah
>
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> Yonah Mishael ben Avraham
> Joplin, MO
> yonahmishael at gmail.com
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