[b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!
kgraham0938 at comcast.net
kgraham0938 at comcast.net
Tue Oct 3 18:26:55 EDT 2006
Hello Peter,
I am curious about your statement about WAYIH:YW = become as opposed to 'were.' What do you think is the difference btw Judges 16:30 and Genesis 2:25?
WAYIH:YW $N"HEM `RWMMIYM.... would you translate this as "They became naked.." or am I misreading your point? Thanks
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Kelton Graham
KGRAHAM0938 at comcast.net
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Peter Kirk <peter at qaya.org>
> On 03/10/2006 18:08, Chris and Nel wrote:
> > ... I am so used to
> > reading sentences without "to be " in them that I still can not fathom its
> > purpose here, considering that without it I actually arrived at the correct
> > translation without looking at the English.
> >
> > Now can someone be kind enough pleeeease..... to relieve me of my making a
> > fool of
> > myself on this board?
> >
> >
> The distinction may be that sentences in which "to be" is omitted are
> usually (always?) stative, indicating a continuing state, like English
> "be", whereas those starting with WAYHIY, and here with its plural form
> WAYIHYUW, indicate actions, like English "became". Thus a literal
> translation would be "And the dead... became more than the dead...". The
> meaning is of course "More people died... than...", an action. A
> translation like Kelton's "Those who were dead ... *were* many, more
> than..." is misleading because it suggests a state, a count of bodies
> already dead. But in fact we have an action here, a large number of
> people dying. (Dare I suggest a prototype of today's suicide bombers,
> except here we have an Israelite killing Gentiles in Gaza?)
>
> --
> Peter Kirk
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