[b-hebrew] 1 Kings 21:10, 13 blessing?
Bryant J. Williams III
bjwvmw at com-pair.net
Sat Mar 18 04:13:27 EST 2006
I do think that that is a possibility. Naboth did not want to sell his ancestral
homeland regardless of who wanted it, even Ahab. Thus, Jezebel took matters into
her own hands, since she was an Israelite, and acted like the gentile ruler she
was taught to be, even if she was married to Ahab. The city elders, fearing for
their lives (and rightfully so) obeyed the letter from Ahab. They produced the
"Sons of Belial" to produced just such evidence, that Naboth had given honor to
God (and King?). Whatever was said by the "Sons of Belial," it worked.
Rev. Bryant J. Williams III
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From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph at email.com>
To: "Hebrew" <b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 07:50 PM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] 1 Kings 21:10, 13 blessing?
> Thanks, Ben and Bryant:
> Looking at the verses you mentioned, Psalm 10:3
> still has the idea of blessing, but in the case of
> blessing ill gotten gains. This is in parallel to
> the wicked boasting about his desires.
> Job 1:11 and 2:5 I have always understood as
> referring not to Job cursing, rather that his
> blessing would stop. I.e. you hurt him, and he
> won't bless you to your face.
> Job 2:9 Job's wife cries out in exasperation "You
> bless God and die" with the implication that Job
> should stop it (she was not as "frum" as Job).
> So that leaves only Job 1:5 to add to 1 Kings 21.
> And even there the context indicates not that the
> sons actively curse God, rather that they do not
> give God his proper respect. Notice the phrasing,
> that they erred, not a rebellion. I see this as an
> unintentional slight and not an intentional curse.
> Could it be that we are not dealing with a curse
> per se, rather that not proper respect is intended?
> Look at the action involved with kneeling: it is a
> descending down to be lower than the other. It is
> an acknowledgment that one is inferior to the
> other. So is it that Naboth was accused of treating
> God and the king as lower than himself?
> Karl W. Randolph.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bryant J. Williams III" <bjwvmw at com-pair.net>
> > Dear Karl,
> > BDB, " barak," p. 139, "piel," #5, says" 'bless, with the antithetical
> > curse (Thes) from the greeting in departing, saying adieu to ,
> > taking leave of;
> > but rather a blessing overdone and so really a curse as vulgar English as
> > as in the Shemitic cognates: I K 21:10.13; Jb 1:5.11, 2.5, 9; Ps
> > 10:3.'" In the
> > passage I Kings 21:9-14, reference is made in the Hebrew Text to
> > 'sons of belial.' This would tell me that any so-called "blessing" coming
> > evil people is, in reality and fact, "a curse." Also the LXX in
> > both places in I
> > Kings 21:10, "EULOGHSE," and "EULOGHKAS" in verse 13. This is
> > reasonable in that
> > EULOGEW is used to translate BRK in the LXX. Again, the LXX uses "hUIOS
> > PARANOMWN" in verse 10, and "hUIOI PARANOMWN" in verse 13 that reinforces
> > idea of the "Sons of the Evil One" claiming the "blessing" Naboth supposedly
> > gave was a "curse."
> > Rev. Bryant J. Williams III
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