[b-hebrew] "short vowels in hexapla"
yudickya at bgu.ac.il
yudickya at bgu.ac.il
Wed Mar 15 15:44:55 EST 2006
> > ------------------------------
> > Message: 14
> > Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:30:34 -0500 (EST)
> > From: "Dr. Joel M. Hoffman" <joel at exc.com>
> > Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] "short vowels in hexapla"
> > To: b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org
> > Message-ID: <m1FJX1G-000GhjC at exc.com>
> > >Dear Joel,
> > >
> > >What is your opinion of the study cited here?
> > >http://hebphil.blogspot.com/2005/11/short-vowels-in-hexapla.html
> > I haven't seen the study (from Leshonenu), and I don't have a
> > copy of
> > the Hexapla here, but if the blogger's description is
> > I have
> > some problems. Just from the table in my NYU book
> > BTW, just
> > came out in paperpack), I know:
> > 1. HA'EL is Alpha-Eta-Lamed, with an Eta representing
> Masoretic> TZERE. According to the
> blog, SHMO "his
> > name" is SEMO, with an
> > Epsilon, not with an Eta.
> > 2. Masoretic DARKO is DERKO in the Sec., with an Epsilon
> > representing Masoretic PATACH (or perhaps
> > underlying SEGOL).
> > So it doesn't look like much of a pattern.
> > Also (again to judge by the blog), in "most instances" we see a
> > pattern. The Sec. is so short and so riddled with errors
> > that even
> > "most of the time" could be a coincidence. This
> > possibility becomes
> > even more likely if we conflate Eta/Epsilon and Segol/Tzere.
> > I also think that the statement, "He therefore suggests, that
> in the
> > time of Origens [sic] the shwa mobile still had the quality of the
> > original vowels" (from the blogger) is at best
> > There was
> > no shwa until the Masoretes. One interesting question is
> > whether SHMO
> > was monosyllabic or bisyllabic, and during which periods of Hebrew,
> > but both the presentation and question mask the real question.
> > I don't know enough about Origen's Greek to know if his dialect
> > allowed words that begin SHM-, so it may be hard to learn much about
> > the word from the transliteration. But I also maintain that
> > transliterations are inherently unreliable. For example,
> > the modern
> > English transliteration of "shema" for both Hebrew SHEMA ("perhaps")
> > and SH'MA ("hear!") is misleading.
> > http://www.exc.com/JoelHoffman/Excerpts/ITB-p88.pdf has some more
> > examples.
> > Still, I'm going to try to find a copy of the original paper.
> > -Joel
> > Joel M. Hoffman, PhD
> > http://www.exc.com/JoelHoffman
1. Epsilon reflects short e and eta reflects long e (or
prolongated by the accent).
2. Derko reflects qitl pattern (also in babylonian tradition),
darko - qatl pattern (possibly).
Indeed in my opinion there is no shwa mobile in second column
All the best
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