[b-hebrew] music in Hebrew [was Re: Long: *Some* Bib for Bryan]
willaa at netvision.net.il
Sun Jan 15 02:04:14 EST 2006
At 01:16 AM 1/15/2006, Peter Kirk wrote:
>>That's the point; if it is postulated that CVC did not occur until
>>post-exilic times, then we have to add the vowel to "l-" ... It's why I
>>included the "l-" Technically, on the same grounds I should have
>>included a vowel for "b" in the 29th.
>I think you have missed my point. If the alef in l-'adonay(a) is silent,
>we have la-do-na-ya, all CV syllables. You also have a non-permitted
>consonant cluster in "ha-artza" (even taking "tz" as one consonant), oddly
>considering that there isn't one in the Masoretic Hebrew; this needs to be
>something like ha-aratza.
IF the alef is silent, yes. Was it? The alef had better not be silent in
the 23rd, for instance.
Here we have a clearly marked three syllable "a-do-nai." Shall we change
the psalm formula to be "silent-do-nai" opening the song to prove that (1)
yhvh is two-syllables and (2) Hebrew -- unlike Aramaic, had no tendency
whatsoever to lose final weak vowels? The same psalm formula is used in the
33rd... three syllable opening. (It's also the formula for Shir Ha-Shirim.)
That is what a bilingual is for; cross-checks. Adonai is three syllables in
every occurrence by cross-checks in the Psalter. It sure is in the 23rd --
nary a particle in sight -- and that does raise a very big "if" that the
alef was silent.
Now I know from research how many commentators like to amend the text of
the 23rd to meet expectations -- for instance, Kraus -- who, for example,
thinks that "na'ot" in "na'ot deshe" should be deleted as he feels it ruins
the meter. Problem: "na'ot" just happens to be the noun; deshe the modifier
-- it describes what kind of na'ot. Chop out the noun; who needs it.. It
reins the postulated 4/4 beat.
Then, I said that I wrote as pronounced, not M-C. "tz" is, of course, one
consonant... I just couldn't get myself to write haaratza. It throws off a
very regular meter -- indeed, the very regularity of meter in the
translations of Psalms 100-150 in this Psalter gave it the name of the
Please note that we need the first and last verses to reconstruct the music
of a psalm. The Psalm formula is given in the first verse. The Psalm
formula is also what tells us whether we are dealing with Sephardic,
Ashkenazic, or Yemenite versions of the Psalms. The melodies in that
Psalter are Sephardic and they are also at the original, pre-Neo-Platonic
tempi. This is hardly surprising considering the age of the consonantal
vorlage used, but it does mean that we have yet another linguistic trap to
watch out for.
I've run out of time.
>peter at qaya.org (personal)
>peterkirk at qaya.org (work)
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