[b-hebrew] gutturals and composite shewa, Peter Kirk
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Tue Sep 6 13:21:17 EDT 2005
Hey Peter, can you show some examples of composite shewa's that are qamets and patahs not under qutturals when you have time.
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Kelton Graham
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> On 06/09/2005 13:35, Yigal Levin wrote:
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> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From:
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> >>>Kelton Graham asked:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Hey is there a rule that only gutterals can have composite shewa?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Then check the second occurrence of YHWH in Judges 16:28,
> >>>and you will find that there is a composite shewa [e.g. Hatef-Segol]
> >>>under the yod,
> >>>which is not a guttural letter.
> >>>
> >>>Apparently rules were meant to be broken.
> >>>
> >>>Dave Donnelly
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> > This is because this particular instance of YHWH, like most others that
> > follow the word Adonai, is meant to be vocalized "Elohim" (traditionally
> > translated "Lord God"). The hataph-segol under the yod represents the
> > hataph-segol under the aleph in elohim, which is guttural.
> >
> >
> >
> But in that case why are only three examples of YHWH to be pronounced
> Elohim pointed in this way?
>
>
> > Yes, rules are meant to be broken. This is simply not a good example.
> >
> >
> >
> For what it's worth, in the Westminster Leningrad Codex text I found:
>
> 9 cases of hataf segol (4 excluding Aramaic)
> 166 cases of hataf patah (160 excluding Aramaic)
> 235 cases of hataf qamats (177 excluding Aramaic)
>
> following non-guttural consonants in the Hebrew Bible. But I understand
> that different Hebrew texts differ significantly on this.
>
> Of the 9 cases of hataf segol, three are the divine name (Gen 15:2,8,
> Jdg 16:28), five are in Aramaic, and only one, $E/$.:EZFPA73T/:NIY in
> Song of Songs 1:6, is an actual Hebrew word.
>
> So, it seems that, at least in the Leningrad text, Dave's rule is fairly
> commonly broken by hataf patah and hataf qamats, but not by hataf segol.
>
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