[b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II

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Wed Nov 30 20:45:57 EST 2005


And who has spent three days or months in a hospital or prison and it was NOT an eternity? Unless doped up on morphine or such.
   
  Marc Bauer

"Harold R. Holmyard III" <hholmyard at ont.com> wrote:
  Dear Solomon,

>That may be so, Harold, for an English text written by an English speaker. 
>But the English Bible is a translation of a Hebrew text, so we also have to
>consider what "olam" meant to the Hebrew writers of the text. 
>
>Thus, it matters whether the Hebrew writers had in mind "eternity" as 
>Westernized English speakers understand it, or something else. And 
>if in the Bible
>it signifies "eternity" some times, did its Hebrew writers always use the
>term "olam" of things "eternal"? And if not, what did "olam" mean in those
>instances?
>
>"I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was 
>about me for ever [l'olam]: yet hast thou brought up my life from 
>corruption,
>O LORD my God." -- Jonah 2:6 KJV
>
>In this occurrence, "forever" lasted for only three days.

HH: No, they did not necessarily use the word of "eternity" in every 
occurrence. I believe we know they did not in reference to some past, 
earthly texts, where the idea is "antiquity" or "of old." This Jonah 
2:6 text is interesting. Thank you for noting it, and it may be that 
the idea is "a terribly long time" from the perspective of a person 
who does not live under water. On the other hand, Jonah could have 
been saying that from an earthly perspective he was doomed; the earth 
with its bars was destined to be his prison forever (had not God 
intervened).

Yours,
Harold Holmyard
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