[b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?

Peter Kirk peterkirk at qaya.org
Mon Feb 7 06:04:52 EST 2005


On 07/02/2005 03:40, Karl Randolph wrote:

>Bearpecs:
>
>"The "above pattern" is a late construct" compared to what?
>
>I don't recall a single place in Tanakh where niphal is reflexive, could you please point out examples?
>
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Perhaps it would be better to say that niphal was originally a simple 
middle form, one of the slots under which it appears in Dave's list, and 
the simple passive form was originally filled by the qal passive. For 
some reason which is unclear, the qal passive became at some time rather 
rare, except as a participle, and was largely replaced by the niphal. Is 
that a reasonable reconstruction?
...

>----- Original Message -----
>From: Bearpecs at aol.com
>  
>
>>In a message dated 2/5/2005 9:36:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>>kwrandolph at email.com writes:
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>>The  above pattern has neither the place nor the need for a "shafel"  form.
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>>The "above pattern" is a late construct.  The niph'al, for example,  was
>>originally a reflexive, not a passive.  ...
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>>


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