[b-hebrew] gods & angels + Moses, etymology of

Polycarp66 at aol.com Polycarp66 at aol.com
Tue Feb 11 14:18:55 EST 2003


In a message dated 2/11/2003 1:38:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
Izzy_Cohen at bmc.com writes:

> "Lisbeth S. Fried" <lizfried at umich.edu> wrote:
> 
> >... The term "angel" is a translation of mal'ach, 
> >which just means messenger. Angel is from the Greek 
> >angelos which also means messenger. High gods used 
> >lower level gods as messengers, you can see that all 
> >through the Ugaritic tales.
> 
> Compare Hermes
> an ancient Greek god, the herald and messenger of the 
> other gods, associated with commerce, invention, and 
> cunning: identified by the Romans with Mercury.
> 
> and the REVERSAL of kHeRMes
> 
> MeRCury
> 4. (cap.) the Roman god of commerce, thievery, 
>   eloquence, and science, and messenger to the 
>   other gods: identified with the Greek god Hermes.
> 
> Compare MeRCury with Hebrew mem-lamed-aleph-khaf 
>     MaL?aKH = angel.
> 
> >There are lots of gods in the OT, the Hebrews were 
> >commanded not to worship any but YHWH. The gods 
> >divided the nations of the world, ...
> 
> Hermes took Asia minor. He was a Phoenician god 
> living atop Mt. Hermon before he moved to Mt. Olympus.
> His navel (< Sanskrit nabhila) is REVERSED at LeBaNon.
> His name still appears near his heel between Oman
> and Iran/Persia: the Strait of HoRMuz. King HiRaM 
> (who made an agreement with King Soloman) probably
> claimed descent from HeRMes.
> 
> So, we see (superstitious) REVERSAL as an analog
> of non-utterance for names/words one should not
> pronounce.
> 
> >and YHWH took the sons of Jacob as his inheritance.
> >Liz
> 
> Substitute a velar G/K for the yod, DH for the heh,
> F for the vav, and DH for the heh to produce 
> GoTT/KaTH + FaTH[er], that is, the father-G-d
> or creator. If so, Catholic = god-like or godly. 
> Cathedral <"god" + XeDeR = room, not <chair.
> 
> Dan Moonhawk Alford wrote (on the MotherTongue list):
> >... Latin Jupiter [yu-piter] is equivalent to Greek 
> >Zeus-Pater [zus-pater], or "God the Father", whatever 
> >language you wish to pronounce it in.
> 
> "Sesamo m." <sesamox at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >Is it true that the etymology of the Bible for the 
> >name Moses is wrong?
> 
> Treating shin as T and heh as DH, MoSHeH = M-ToTH,
> that is, "from Thoth". Very appropriate, if given 
> by an Egyptian princess (adoptive mother).
> 
> Thoth (thohth, toht)  n. 
> the ancient Egyptian god of learning and magic, 
> represented as a man with the head of an ibis or 
> a baboon and considered as the scribe of the gods.
> 
> But, consider the Egyptian equivalent of 
> mem-tzadi-aleph = to find, hence "foundling". 
> But I doubt the princess would have named him so.
> 

Are you suggesting that [Greek] hERMHS and [Hebrew] MLK derive from the same 
source with a L > R or R > L shift? 

gfsomsel


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