[b-hebrew] gods & angels + Moses, etymology of
Polycarp66 at aol.com
Polycarp66 at aol.com
Tue Feb 11 14:18:55 EST 2003
In a message dated 2/11/2003 1:38:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Izzy_Cohen at bmc.com writes:
> "Lisbeth S. Fried" <lizfried at umich.edu> wrote:
>
> >... The term "angel" is a translation of mal'ach,
> >which just means messenger. Angel is from the Greek
> >angelos which also means messenger. High gods used
> >lower level gods as messengers, you can see that all
> >through the Ugaritic tales.
>
> Compare Hermes
> an ancient Greek god, the herald and messenger of the
> other gods, associated with commerce, invention, and
> cunning: identified by the Romans with Mercury.
>
> and the REVERSAL of kHeRMes
>
> MeRCury
> 4. (cap.) the Roman god of commerce, thievery,
> eloquence, and science, and messenger to the
> other gods: identified with the Greek god Hermes.
>
> Compare MeRCury with Hebrew mem-lamed-aleph-khaf
> MaL?aKH = angel.
>
> >There are lots of gods in the OT, the Hebrews were
> >commanded not to worship any but YHWH. The gods
> >divided the nations of the world, ...
>
> Hermes took Asia minor. He was a Phoenician god
> living atop Mt. Hermon before he moved to Mt. Olympus.
> His navel (< Sanskrit nabhila) is REVERSED at LeBaNon.
> His name still appears near his heel between Oman
> and Iran/Persia: the Strait of HoRMuz. King HiRaM
> (who made an agreement with King Soloman) probably
> claimed descent from HeRMes.
>
> So, we see (superstitious) REVERSAL as an analog
> of non-utterance for names/words one should not
> pronounce.
>
> >and YHWH took the sons of Jacob as his inheritance.
> >Liz
>
> Substitute a velar G/K for the yod, DH for the heh,
> F for the vav, and DH for the heh to produce
> GoTT/KaTH + FaTH[er], that is, the father-G-d
> or creator. If so, Catholic = god-like or godly.
> Cathedral <"god" + XeDeR = room, not <chair.
>
> Dan Moonhawk Alford wrote (on the MotherTongue list):
> >... Latin Jupiter [yu-piter] is equivalent to Greek
> >Zeus-Pater [zus-pater], or "God the Father", whatever
> >language you wish to pronounce it in.
>
> "Sesamo m." <sesamox at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Is it true that the etymology of the Bible for the
> >name Moses is wrong?
>
> Treating shin as T and heh as DH, MoSHeH = M-ToTH,
> that is, "from Thoth". Very appropriate, if given
> by an Egyptian princess (adoptive mother).
>
> Thoth (thohth, toht) n.
> the ancient Egyptian god of learning and magic,
> represented as a man with the head of an ibis or
> a baboon and considered as the scribe of the gods.
>
> But, consider the Egyptian equivalent of
> mem-tzadi-aleph = to find, hence "foundling".
> But I doubt the princess would have named him so.
>
Are you suggesting that [Greek] hERMHS and [Hebrew] MLK derive from the same
source with a L > R or R > L shift?
gfsomsel
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