Additional data on El and Jacob
peter_kirk at sil.org
Tue Feb 8 20:52:43 EST 2000
Thanks for presenting some evidence.
1) tends to suggest that Jacob was some time before the Amarna era and
so before Lab'aya, certainly the name was.
2) doesn't help much with dating.
3): you have made here an important but unjustified assumption, that
Lab'aya was not an Israelite. Even if he was, your argument is only
from silence in Joshua.
Alternative hypothesis (as invited in your "methodology" posting and
also by NPL): Jacob entered Egypt during the reign of Amenemhat III,
perhaps 450 or even 600 years before Lab'ayu! Evidence: see "A Test
of Time" by David Rohl, especially chapter 15 (note that the issue
here is independent of Rohl's controversial redating), also your 18th
century Akkadian Jacob could be our hero. The evidence presented by
Rohl from Tell ed-Daba is relatively new, and I have not seen a
rebuttal of it. I welcome your attempts at falsification.
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Subject: Additional data on El and Jacob
Author: <barre at access1.com> at Internet
Date: 08/02/2000 02:01
1) The name "Jacob" is most probably a contraction of Jacob-El, the name appeari
ng in the
list of places (!) conquered by Thut-mose III in Canaan, in Akkadian of in the 1
as Yah-ah-qu-ub-il and the similar name of a Hyksos chieftain as Ya 'aqob-har.
though to mean "May El protect."
2) The phrase in Gen 49:24, 'abbir ya'kob may be translated as the "Bull of Jaco
epithet commonly ascribed to El in the Ugaritic tablets, here appearing in a con
text that also
mentions El Shaddai.
3) Jacob took Shechem between almost certainly before Joshua and sometime after
since no conflict is recorded in Joshua that would explain their possession of t
Otherwise we must presume that Jacob took the city before Lab'aya, lost it and t
unknown Israelite regained it again before Joshua. This would also force Hamor,
contemporary of Jacob, into a pre-Lab'aya time frame. This position is strained
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