[B-Greek] Authorities

Justin Chamberlain justin4jesus at verizon.net
Sun Jan 30 20:01:08 EST 2011


I would agree wholeheartedly... AT Robertson is difficult and with so many "translation rules" outside of actual Greek grammar it will be confusing for a beginner... speaking from recent experience.

Justin Chamberlain
Santa Maria CA

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From: b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Terry Cook
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 4:39 PM
To: George F Somsel; MT; b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Authorities

I would never pick an argument with George so, may I gently suggest the 
suggestions made are like Greek on steroids? A $150 book for a beginner is 
at minimum eyebrow raising. You wanna scare this fella?  :-)
Robertson is almost unreadable for most normal human beings. I have his book 
and the resource on Logos. It's difficult to read. Wallace is an 
intermediate book too advanced for a beginner and would probably cause more 
problems than it would solve. In fact, almost all the books you've 
recommended are intermediate. Runge is far too specialized for any beginner.
Mark described himself as a "beginner student" and I suggested books good 
for a beginner. I know myself I needed to refresh my English first AND I 
needed to crawl before I could even take baby steps.
I agree a beginner should have a N/A 27.

Terry Cook
sDg


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From: "George F Somsel" <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 7:24 PM
To: "MT" <mahontay at yahoo.com>; <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Authorities

> I'm sure our illustrious leader will have others to add, but here are a 
> few:
>
> Lexica
>      Baur, Danker, Arndt and Gingrich _A Greek-English Lexicon of the New
> Testament and Other Early Christian Literature_
>              THIS IS THE SINE QUA NON.  Accept no substitutes.
>       Liddell, Scott, Jones.  _A Greek-English Lexicon_ .  Geared more 
> toward
> classical Greek but still valuable.
>       Moulton and Milligan.  _Vocabulary of the Greek New Testament_. 
> Contains
> examples of usage current at the time of the NT
>       Deissmann.  _Light from the Ancient East_; _Biblical Studies_.  Sets 
> forth
> much of what M & M have.
>
> Grammars
>       A. T. Robertson. _A Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light 
> of
> Historical Research_.  Huge -- "It's in there." Dated.
>       Moulton-Howard-Turner _A Grammar of the Greek New Testament (4 
> vols).
> Different authors, ergo different approaches.
>       Burton. _Syntax of the Moods and Tenses in New Testament Greek_
>       C.F.D. Moule.  _Idiom Book of New Testament Greek_.  Don't be 
> fooled; it's
> a grammar.  Some surprising material.
>       Runge.  _A Discourse Grammar of the Greek New Testament_.  New,
> interesting approach.
>       Wallace.  _Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics_  Many distinctions--some
> questionable.
>       Smyth. _Greek Grammar_ Oriented toward classical but extremely 
> useful.
>
> Nestle-Aland 27th edition.  AVOID INTERLINEARS !!!
> Only use an analytical as a last resort and wean yourself off it as 
> quickly as
> possible.
>  george
> gfsomsel
>
>
> … search for truth, hear truth,
> learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
> defend the truth till death.
>
>
> - Jan Hus
> _________
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: MT <mahontay at yahoo.com>
> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Sun, January 30, 2011 4:44:31 PM
> Subject: [B-Greek] Authorities
>
> Being a beginner student, I am curious as to which resources would be 
> considered
> authoritative in my study of Greek.  Is there a list of works that have
> withstood the test of time and are thus considered invaluable in one's 
> study of
> N. T. Greek?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks, Mark Trzasko
>
>
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