[B-Greek] AMA SYN in 1Th 4:17 and 5:10
cwconrad2 at mac.com
Mon Jan 26 07:15:52 EST 2009
On Jan 26, 2009, at 2:51 AM, vasilis tsialas wrote:
> I made a research in my library on the combination AMA SYN in 1Th
> 4:17 and 5:10.
> Many, as Thayer, believe that it AMA SYN means "simultaneously
> with",but Lightfoot strongly denies that.
> To say the truth, I also find it impossible in 5:10 AMA to mean "at
> the same time".
> What do you think on the subject?
> I would appreciate it if you could propose me any articles on the
I think you've caught one of those instances where Thayer is not to be
BDAG, s.v. hAMA:
2. marker of association, together
b. used as prep. w. dat. together with (Hom. et al.; SIG 958, 21f;
1168, 6; PRein 26, 14; POxy 975; 658, 13; 975; PFlor 21, 15; Wsd
18:11; 1 Esdr 1:43 al.; TestAbr A 10 p. 88, 5 [Stone p. 24]; TestJob
29:1; GrBar 17:1; Just., A I, 4, 9 al.; Ath.) ἐκριζώσητε
ἅ. αὐτοῖς [EKRIZWSHTE hAMA AUTOIS] Mt 13:29. ἅ. Ῥέῳ
IPhld 11:1; cp. IEph 2:1; 19:2; IMg 15 al. Apparently pleonastic w.
σύν (cp. Alex. Aphr., An. 83, 19 ἅ. αἰσθομένη σὺν
αὐτῷ [hAMA AISQOMENH SUN AUTWi] ; En 9:7; Jos., Ant. 4, 309; cp.
SIG 705, 57 ἅμα μετ᾿ αὐτῶν) [hAMA MET' AUTWN] to
denote what belongs together in time and place (about like Lat. una
cum): ἅ. σὺν αὐτοῖς ἁρπαγησόμεθα [hAMA SUN
AUTOIS hARPAGHSOMEQA] 1 Th 4:17. ἅ. σὺν αὐτῷ
ζήσωμεν 5:10.—Also w. adv. of time (POxy 1025, 16 [III AD]
ἅμ᾿ αὔριον; cp. Jos., Ant. 6, 40 ἅ. ἕῳ) ἅ.
πρωΐ [hAMA PRWI] early in the morning Mt 20:1 (Theophanes
Continuatus 719, 7 [IBekker 1838]; cp. EpArist 304 ἅ. τῇ
πρωΐᾳ hAMA THi PRWIAi).—DELG. M-M.
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
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