[B-Greek] 2 Cor 12:7 beatings or diseases
George F Somsel
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Fri Jan 9 20:04:12 EST 2009
I'm afraid Harold is using the glosses in Barclay Newman again.
κολαφίζωbeat, strike; harass, trouble
Newman, B. M. (1993). Concise Greek-English dictionary of the New Testament. (102). Stuttgart, Germany: Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft; United Bible Societies.
BDAG does, however, have "torment" as one gloss with is arguably in the same semantic domain.
… search for truth, hear truth,
learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
defend the truth till death.
- Jan Hus
From: Jeffrey B. Gibson <jgibson000 at comcast.net>
To: Harold Holmyard <hholmyard3 at earthlink.net>
Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 7:45:27 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] 2 Cor 12:7 beatings or diseases
Harold Holmyard wrote:
>> KAI THi hUPERBOLHi TWN APOKALUYEWN DIO hINA MH hUPERAIRWMAI EDOQH MOI SKOLOY THi SARKI AGGELOS SATANA hINA ME KOLAFIZHi hINA MH hUPERAIRWMAI
>> So many commentaries offer numerous suggestions as to what the thorn in the flesh was. Many seem to think it was his poor eyesight or malaria. However, does not this passage simply state that the SKOLOY was the AGGELOS SATANA? And further, that this AGGELOS was authorized to KOLAFIZHi Paul, namely, to 'beat' him in some sense. My question really then is why do commentaries move from the thorn representing an angel beating Paul to the thorn representing some eye disease, or some other malady? (I don't see how KOLAFIZHi could mean 'eye disease.')
> An eye disease could harass someone. "Harass" is one of the glosses
> given for KOLAFIZW.
Given where? I don't see it in BDAG.
Jeffrey B. Gibson, D.Phil. (Oxon)
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