[B-Greek] genitive participle in Matthew 22:10
kline_dekooning at earthlink.net
Fri Oct 3 15:45:30 EDT 2008
One more comment.
RE: the case for that which fills
The verb PIMPLHMI in the active generally takes a genitive argument
but can take a dative see LS interm. "c. dat. to fill with a thing,
Eur.". However, PIMPLHMI in the passive almost without exception takes
the genitive. LS interm. "rarely c. dat., DAKRUSI PLHSQEIS Thuc." .
However, in the NT I could not find any examples of PIMPLHMI taking
anything other than the genitive.
On Oct 3, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Elizabeth Kline wrote:
> On Oct 3, 2008, at 9:26 AM, rinas jody wrote:
>> For some years I have looked at Matthew 22.10, being unsure of how
>> the English translations came up with:
>> "...so the wedding hall was filled with guests."
>> taking it from the phrase in NA 27:
>> KAI EPLESTHE HO GAMOS ANAKEIMENWN
>> ANAKEIMAI reappears in v.11 as well, where it seems a bit more
>> I have checked out BAGD and LSJ. (Sorry, I don't have BDAG yet.) I
>> presume that ANAKEIMENWN must be rendered into good English. Thus,
>> what is literally written in the genitive participle -- "of the ones
>> who are reclining" -- must be rendered as "with guests." "Guests"
>> are the very ones who are "reclining to dine."
>> There is a variant in v.10: TWN is inserted in front of the
>> participle. Are the copyists trying to make it more obvious that
>> this participle should be understood as a substantive?
>> If I were to analyze this participle from categories in Wallace's
>> GGBtB, I might call it a Genitive of Content (p.92) or Genitive of
>> Agency (p.126).
>> But I have found it odd to translate it as "with guests." To me this
>> would require a dative and not a genitive participle.
> It appears that you undersand the issues here quite well and don't
> really need much in the way of clarification.
> One of the problems with reading primarily the NT and not more
> difficult texts, e.g., Attic Tragedy, is that the NT often lends
> itself to literal translation. If we spend some time in Sophocles or
> Aeschylus we will soon discover that translation involves significant
> syntactical transformation between the source document and the target
> language. What you are looking at here is a relatively minor case of
> transformation from a Greek idiom to an English idiom.
> Elizabeth Kline
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