[B-Greek] PARARREW's root word (in Hebrews 2:1)?
tsialas78 at hotmail.com
Fri Feb 8 05:35:10 EST 2008
Sarah, thank you for your call.
The truth is that that there others in this forum that are much better trained than me in the ancient Greek language.
What I can only do is to say that this composite word is not anymore in use in Greek.
I noticed that BDAG lemma is small. I will borrow the information of one other lexicon,
Πάπυρος – Μέγα Λεξικό της Ελληνικής Γλώσσας.
According to this lexicon, παραρρέω literally means "to flow beside/close/beyond" something.
brake loose by sliping
slips from my mind
I am forgotten
neglect to execute an order or admonition
I run away
I enter somewhere by mistake or I sneak
(for a voice) unclear, unsteady
(for persons) I lose my mind
proverb: «ὕδωρ παραρρέει», it is said of those who promise, in order to accomplish a purpose, not to avoid to spend the fruit of their labour.
Similar thoughts are given by Thayer:
(para, and r`e,w); from Sophocles, Xenophon, and Plato down; to flow past (pararre,on u[dwr, Isa. 44:4),
to glide by: mh,pote pararruw/men (2 aorist passive subjunctive; cf. Alexander Buttmann (1873) Ausf. Spr. ii., p. 287;
(Veitch, under the word r`e,w; WH's Appendix, p. 170);
but L T Tr WH pararuw/men; see Rho), lest we be carried past, pass by (R. V. drift away from them) (missing the thing),
i. e. lest the salvation which the things heard show us how to obtain slip away from us, Heb. 2:1.
In Greek authors parrarei moi ti,, a thing escapes me, Sophocles Philoct. 653; tropically, slips from my mind,
Plato, legg. 6, p. 781 a.; in the sense of neglect, mh, parraruhj, th,rhson de, evmh,n boulh,n, Prov. 3:21.*
My personal feeling, taking all the above into account, is that παραρρέω has the speed and motion of ρέω and the direction of παρά, and means something that moves swiftly and softly out of the proper course in purpose or by mistake. It seems to me that is very similar to the metaphorical use of the English slide/slip.Vasileios Tsialas,
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 04:50:15 -0500From: sarah.r.madden at gmail.comTo: jcwilking at yahoo.comSubject: Re: [B-Greek] PARARREW's root word (in Hebrews 2:1)?CC: tsialas78 at hotmail.com
Hi, John --
Since I am a relative newbie to Greek (since 2000) and have only studied Greek in the NT, I can't answer your question about its use anywhere else. It only appears once in the GNT. Maybe our friend from Greece can enlighten us. Vasilis, what do you think?
On Feb 8, 2008 12:03 AM, John Wilking <jcwilking at yahoo.com> wrote:
It seems that we have been confusing "flowing" with "drifting." I don't recall ever finding an example of PARARREW used of an object floating, drifting or navigating, but it is used of the movement of water itself, a river flowing by a city, sweat breaking out on your forehead and moisture being taken through the root system of a plant. Correct me if I'm mistaken.
John C. Wilking
Sarah Madden <sarah.r.madden at gmail.com> wrote:
Tsialas --Thank you for chiming in from Greece itself and for bearing with all of uswho are just scratching the surface of your magnificent heart languagewhether it be Koine, Classic, or modern! You are very kind to write andprovide a glimpse of understanding into the nuances of the language.Sarahsarah.r.madden at gmail,comMaryland, USA2008/2/5 vasilis tsialas :
> I would like to apologize for a mistake in my previous message.> Εκένωσε/εκκένωσε was included by mistake. I was confused with modern> Greek.>> Tsialas Vasileios>> Athens, Greece>>>> > From: tsialas78 at hotmail.com> To: sarah.r.madden at gmail.com;> gfsomsel at yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:15:11 +0200> CC:> b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] PARARREW's root word (in> Hebrews 2:1)?> > > I would like only to add, if it is not already> mentioned,> that the cases of παραρρέω/παραρέω, ιωάννης/ιωάνης,> εκκένωσεν/εκένωσεν > show how later NT copyists corrected the words>> considered as having bad spelling according to the classical language >> (where actually the pronunciation was different and indicated the use of> double consonants).> "Corrections" for similar reasons have taken place is> some expressions as well, > with the addition of some words, usually some> articles, or the "correction" of some suffixes.Tsialas Vasileios> >> Athens, Greece> >> _________________________________________________________________> Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE!> http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/> ---> B-Greek home page: http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek> B-Greek mailing list> B-Greek at lists.ibiblio.org> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-greek>-- Sarahsarah.r.madden at gmail.comwork: 301.429.8189---B-Greek home page: http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreekB-Greek mailing listB-Greek at lists.ibiblio.orghttp://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-greek
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