[B-Greek] 1 Sam 2:26 AGAQON
timothy mcmahon
targum at msn.com
Sat Dec 27 15:48:11 EST 2008
Looks like TWB in the Hebrew is not a participle but a simple adjective, in which case AGAQON in LXX is a woodenly accurate rendering which makes difficult sense, if any, in the Greek. The NETS translation cited above sounds like it's drawing on the Hebrew.
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> 1. 1 Sam 2:26 AGAQON (Kenneth Litwak)
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> I'm looking at 1 Sam 2:26 in both Hebrew and Greek. Part of the Greek says SAMUHL EPOREUETO KAI EMEGALUNETO KAI AGAQON KAI META KURIOU KAI META ANQRWPWN, which seems to mean something like "Samuel was going and was growing also good both with the Lord and with people. However AGAQON translates a Hebrew participle and therefore it seems that this might not be what is meant. I'm pondering whether to try to force the Greek to have a meaning similar to the Hebrew (since this part of the LXX is fairly "literal" in its rendering of the Hebrew text as opposed to, say, Isaiah or Micah) or to try to come up with a reasonable translation of the Greek on its own, supposing that most who used the OG did not know the underlying Hebrew. Any comments?
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> From: Albert Pietersma <albert.pietersma at sympatico.ca>
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> On Dec 27, 2008, at 1:51 AM, Kenneth Litwak wrote:
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> > I'm looking at 1 Sam 2:26 in both Hebrew and Greek. Part of the
> > Greek says SAMUHL EPOREUETO KAI EMEGALUNETO KAI AGAQON KAI META
> > KURIOU KAI META ANQRWPWN, which seems to mean something like "Samuel
> > was going and was growing also good both with the Lord and with
> > people. However AGAQON translates a Hebrew participle and therefore
> > it seems that this might not be what is meant. I'm pondering whether
> > to try to force the Greek to have a meaning similar to the Hebrew
> > (since this part of the LXX is fairly "literal" in its rendering of
> > the Hebrew text as opposed to, say, Isaiah or Micah) or to try to
> > come up with a reasonable translation of the Greek on its own,
> > supposing that most who used the OG did not know the underlying
> > Hebrew. Any comments?
> "Literal" or not, the Greek means what a speaker of Greek would take
> it to mean. Put differently, a translation equivalent does not take on
> an 'usual' sense unless that sense can be shown to be part of the
> living language. NETS (Bernard Taylor) translates the verse as
> follows: "And the boy Samouel kept going and became great and was in
> favor with the Lord and with people."
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