[B-Greek] Accusative of retained object
Bert de Haan
b_dehaan at sympatico.ca
Mon May 21 18:05:14 EDT 2007
Is Smyth 1748 an example of what happened in Rom.3:2?
Bert de Haan.
>From: Elizabeth Kline <kline_dekooning at earthlink.net>
>To: greek B-Greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
>CC: Bert de Haan <b_dehaan at sympatico.ca>
>Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Accusative of retained object
>Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 13:01:29 -0700
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>A few observations from the traditional point of view:
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>A close reading will reveal that Robertson and Wallace are not talking
>about or saying the same thing. Wallace appears to be addressing active
>verbs that take a double accusative when they are transformed into a
>passive construction. Rom. 3:2 is NOT an example.
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>ROM. 3:1 TI OUN TO PERISSON TOU IOUDAIOU H TIS hH WFELEIA THS PERITOMHS;
>2 POLU KATA PANTA TROPON. PRWTON MEN [GAR] hOTI EPISTEUQHSAN TA LOGIA TOU
>QEOU.
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>PISTEW (BDAG 818 #3) "entrust something to someone" in the active can take
>three arguments (Lk 16:11b), a nominative, an accusative and a dative. The
>equivalent when found in the passive may have the dative "transformed"
>into an accusative. G.Cooper (1.52.4.2,6) doesn't read this accusative as
>an object of the passive verb. He suggests that the accusative here is
>functioning as an adverbial. Carl will probably disagree with this
>analysis.
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>See also BDF 159.4 and Smyth 1747.
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>Elizabeth Kline
>
>
>On May 21, 2007, at 8:59 AM, Bert de Haan wrote:
>>I found what maybe an explanation in Wallace's GGBB on page 438.
>>I will quote some of it.
>>"Although it seems a bit odd to native English speakers, Greek sometimes
>>uses an accusative with a true passive verb. The major usage for such a
>>structure involves the accusative of retained object. In this instance,
>>the accusative of thing in a double accusative person-thing construction
>>with an active verb retains its case when the verb is put in the passive.
>>The accusative of person, in such instances, becomes the subject. This
>>use of the accusative occurs most frequently with causative verbs, though
>>it is rare in the NT.
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>On May 21, 2007, at 9:20 AM, George F Somsel wrote:
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>>It isn't, of course, only Wallace who note this usage. Perhaps you might
>>take a look at the examples A.T. Robertson cites
>>
>>Some verbs which have only one accusative in the active or middle yet
>>retain the accusative of the thing in the passive with the person in the
>>nominative. This is a freedom not possessed by the Latin. The person in
>>the active was generally in the dative. Thus Paul a number of times uses
>>ÏιÏÏεÏομαι [PISTEUOMAI] (ÏιÏÏεÏ
θá¿Î½Î±Î¹ Ïὸ
>>εá½Î±Î³Î³Îλιον [PISTEUQHNAI TO EUAGGELION 1 Th. 2:4;
>>á¼ÏιÏÏεÏθη Ïὸ μαÏÏÏÏιον [EPISTEUQH TO MARTURION] 2
>>Th. 1:10; cf. also 1 Cor. 9:17; Gal. 2:7; Ro. 3:2; 1 Tim. 1:11). Then
>>again ÏεÏιβάλλομαι [PERIBALLOMAI] is frequently so employed,
>>as ÏεÏιβεβλημÎÎ½Î¿Ï ÏινδÏνα [PERIBEBLHMENOS SINDONA]
>>(Mk. 14:51; cf. 16:5; and especially in Rev., as 7:9, 13; 10:1; 11:3;
>>12:1; 17:4; 18:16; 19:13). This is not the middle as Blass has it, though
>>the future middle does occur in Rev. 3:5 with á¼Î½ [EN], and the aorist
>>middle with the accusative in Rev. 19:8. In Rev. 4:4 we have
>> ÏεÏιβεβλημÎνοÏ
Ï á¼±Î¼Î±ÏÎ¯Î¿Î¹Ï [PERIBEBLHMENOUS
>>hIMATIOIS] (loc.), and margin (W. H.) á¼Î½ ἱμ. EN hIM. Once more
>>ÏεÏίκειμαι [PERIKEIMAI] is used as the passive of
>>ÏεÏιÏίθημι [PERITIQHMI] with the accusative of the thing,
>>though the verb itself means to âlie aroundâ instead of âbe
>>encompassed with.â So Ïὴν á¼
λÏ
Ïιν ÏεÏίκειμαι [THN
>>hALLUSIN PERIKEIMAI] (Ac. 28:20). Cf. also Heb. 5:2, but in Lu. 17:2 we
>>have ÏεÏί [PERI] repeated.
>>
>>Robertson, A. (1919; 2006). A Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the
>>Light of Historical Research (p. 485).
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