[B-Greek] Futuristic Presents in Matthew
Eddie Mishoe
edmishoe at yahoo.com
Fri May 11 18:00:10 EDT 2007
Mitch:
In the archives here you will find a lot of discussion
on Deictic Centers. I think your question is resolved
- partly anyway - by appealing to the DC. In both of
these passages, the DC is shifted forward by the
"after X days" phrase you point out.
So that, OIDATE hOTI META DUO hHMERAS TO PASCA GINETAI
would mean that the DC is to be centered two days
forward from the last temporal point. If the previous
temporal point were Wednesday, then the writer has now
fast-forwarded to Friday. And on Friday, the new DC,
the Passover is no longer a future event but a present
one. All the festivities related to the Passover would
be underway on Friday. Likewise, on Friday, the actual
betrayal begins, hence the Present Tense again.
Once this DC is located, the temporal reference point
is given by the appropriate tense - Aorist if the
action is anterior; Present if the action is current.
Eddie Mishoe
--- Mitch Larramore <mitchlarramore at yahoo.com> wrote:
> These are called Futuristic Presents, but I don't
> understand what other Tense (or grammatical
> construction) could have been used when the "after X
> days" is factored into the equation.
>
> 26.2
> OIDATE hOTI META DUO hHMERAS TO PASCA GINETAI, KAI
> hO
> hUIOS TOU ANQRWPOU PARADIDOTAI EIS TO STAURWQHNAI
>
> 27.63
> META TREIS hHMERAS EGEIROMAI
>
> In both examples (from Intermediate NT Greek, by
> Richard Young) there appears to be a NEED for the
> Present Tense because of the prior statements of
> META
> DUO hHMERAS or META TREIS hHMERAS.
>
> Using the first example, after two days, the
> Passover
> is no longer future (and not past either), so what
> other Tense could he have used? If this adverbial
> phrase were omitted then I think his point is valid.
> Dr. Young takes a linguistic approach to this
> grammar
> but I really don't see justification for this
> usage...at least not with these examples. Any
> linguistic reasons for his conclusions?
>
> Finally. What is the main difference(s) between a
> 'traditional grammar' approach and a 'linguistic'
> approach?
>
> Mitch Larramore
> Sugar Land, Texas
>
>
>
>
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