[B-Greek] EPI with acc. ( was ACTS 20:13 PROELQONTES/
jfs at jfsanders.com
Sun Mar 18 07:34:10 EDT 2007
Is it not possible that the Greek speakers at that time considered KAQIZW or
KAQEZOMAI verbs of motion? There appears to be a wide range of uses and
some of those uses can appear to be motion type verbs. Is it possible that
the verb can be considered as one of "in situ" or "in motu", where case and
preposition determine in the speaker/writer's mind which is the situation on
I do not know, I am just asking the question?
On Mar 15, 2007, at 12:03 PM, Carl W. Conrad wrote:
>>Another issue here is EPI used to mark a GOAL (see BDAG p.364 #4). I
>>was tempted to read EPI TO PLOION as "on the boat"
>but how could it mean that? EPI with acc. must indicate movement onto
MATT. 19:28 ... hOTAN KAQISHi hO hUIOS TOU ANQRWPOU EPI QRONOU DOXHS
AUTOU, KAQHSESQE KAI hUMEIS EPI DWDEKA QRONOUS KRINONTES TAS DWDEKA
FULAS TOU ISRAHL.
Looking at KAQISHi ... EPI QRONOU DOXHS AUTOU followed by KAQHSESQE
EPI DWDEKA QRONOUS sent me to the grammars to see what was going on.
Reading G.Cooper 1.68.42 (Attic Syntax) he took a very strong
position that EPI with the acc. is used for movement toward something
or onto something and not of something resting or being in a location
Then I looked at A.T.Robertson pages 600-601 while speaking of EPI
with the cases he quotes some ancient source "... the accusative
implies motion with a view to superposition ... " and then comments
"There is some truth in this distinction and the case-idea must
always be observed. But the growth of the accusative in the later
language at the expense of the other cases caused some confusion in
the usage according to the standard of earlier Greek. Simcox
considers it 'almost a matter of indifference' whether in the N.T. on
uses the locative, genitive or accusative." Robertson then does not
totally agree with this.
More on this later.
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