[B-Greek] APOKRITHEIS in Matthew 28:5
Farrell Till
jftill at mailaka.net
Sat Mar 17 23:11:56 EST 2007
TILL
Forwarded as received.
Hi Harold,
I -- and I'm sure many others -- have respected your opinion over the
years on B-Greek. Why not also copy or forward your comments on the
non-verbal aspects of this to me and other interested B-Greekers...? We
would appreciate it!
Thanks, and Best regards,
David
D.W. Roe
Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany
Harold Holmyard wrote:
> Farrell Till wrote:
>
>> A Bible group that I participate in has been discussing differences in
>> Matthew's and John's resurrection narratives. A key concern during the
>> discussions has been why John said that Mary Magdalene went to the tomb,
>> found it empty, and then ran to tell Peter and "the other disciple" that
>> the body had been stolen, whereas Matthew said that Mary M was one of the
>> women who went to the tomb, saw an angel descend, roll away the stone, and
>> tell the women that Jesus had risen, after which the women, who would have
>> included Mary M, left the tomb, encountered Jesus, and even touched and
>> worshiped him.
>>
>> The two accounts seem incompatible, but a solution has emerged during the
>> discussions.
>>
>
> HH: The two accounts are quite compatible, but I will share with you
> off-line about it. I don't think the answer is in the verb you discuss.
>
> Yours,
> Harold Holmyard
>
>> This solution hinges on some lexicographical claims that the
>> aorist tense of APOKRINOMAI conveys the idea of "answering
>> later." Moulton's, Perschbacher's, and Wigram's Analytical Greek
Lexicons
>> have been cited to support this solution. All of them give the same
>> explication of this verb.
>>
>>
>>
>>> APOKRINOMAI (§ 27. rem. 3) aor. 1, APOKRINAMHN "and, later,
also" (pass.
>>> form) APEKRIQHN (i, fut. (pass. form) APOKRIQHSOMAI (APOKRINW to
separate,
>>>
>>>
>> >from APO & KRINW to answer, Mat. 3.15, et al.; in N. T. to respond to
>>
>>
>>> certain present circumstances, to avow, Mat. 11.25 et al.
>>>
>>>
>> Matthew 28:5 contains the aorist 1 participle APOKRIQEIS, so on that basis
>> some have theorized that this verse should have been translated "And later
>> answering, the angel said...." This translation of the verse would allow
>> for a gap or delay between the angel's descent and his speaking to the
>> women, so possibly Mary Magdalene could have left the tomb site before the
>> angel announced the resurrection and gone to find Peter and John. This,
>> then, would possibly explain why she thought that the body had been stolen
>> even though Matthew's account says that the angel told the women that
Jesus
>> had risen and that they then encountered Jesus personally.
>>
>> A major problem, however, is that we can find no Bible versions in either
>> English or French that translated APOKRITHEIS this way in Matthew 28:5 or
>> anywhere else in the New Testament. Is there any basis for thinking that
>> APOKRITHEIS in this verse did communicate the idea of a significant time
>> delay? Are there any places in the NT where APOKRITHEIS was translated
>> "later answered" or its equivalent.
>>
>> If not, why do you suppose that Wigram, Moulton, and Perschbacher have
said
>> that APOKRITHEIS in the aorist tense could mean "and, later," or "also."
>>
>> Another problem that some of us have wondered about is how conjunctive
>> ("and" or "also") or adverbial ("later") terms could properly define a
>> verbal word. None of these terms convey concepts of verbal action.
>>
>> Some of us have elementary knowledge of Koine Greek but nothing that could
>> be considered scholarly. Any input that the group could give us would be
>> be
>>
>> J. F. Till (ret.)
>> jftill at mailaka.net
>>
>>
>
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