[B-Greek] ACTS 20:13 PROELQONTES/ PROSELQONTES

Elizabeth Kline kline_dekooning at earthlink.net
Thu Mar 15 15:36:32 EST 2007


Thank you Carl,


On Mar 15, 2007, at 12:03 PM, Carl W. Conrad wrote:

> On Mar 15, 2007, at 1:08 PM, Elizabeth Kline wrote:
>
>> ACTS 20:13 hHMEIS DE PROELQONTES EPI TO PLOION ANHCQHMEN EPI THN
>> ASSON EKEIQEN MELLONTES ANALAMBANEIN TON PAULON: hOUTWS GAR
>> DIATETAGMENOS HN MELLWN AUTOS PEZEUEIN.
>>
>> It has been suggested that PROSELQONTES would be a probable scribal
>> improvement of this passage and for that reason PROELQONTES is more
>> likely to be original. Why would PROSELQONTES be considered an
>> improvement. It certainly doesn't fit the context as well as
>> PROELQONTES.
>>
>> Another issue here is EPI used to mark a GOAL (see BDAG p.364 #4). I
>> was tempted to read EPI TO PLOION as "on the boat"
>
> but how could it mean that? EPI with acc. must indicate movement  
> onto something.

If by this you mean EPI with acc. with a verb of motion  must  
indicate movement onto something then I have not found any counter  
evidence. BDAG p. 363.1.c lists some examples of EPI with acc. which  
do not involve movement but the verb isn't a verb of motion like  
PROELQONTES. See mat 19:28, MK 4:38, 13:2, Lk 21:35, Jn 12:15, Rev.  
4:4, 6:2.

MATT. 19:28 ... hOTAN KAQISHi hO hUIOS TOU ANQRWPOU EPI QRONOU DOXHS  
AUTOU, KAQHSESQE KAI hUMEIS EPI DWDEKA QRONOUS KRINONTES TAS DWDEKA  
FULAS TOU ISRAHL.

MARK 4:38 KAI AUTOS HN EN THi PRUMNHi EPI TO PROSKEFALAION KAQEUDWN.

MARK 13:2 KAI hO IHSOUS EIPEN AUTWi: BLEPEIS TAUTAS TAS MEGALAS  
OIKODOMAS; OU MH AFEQHi hWDE LIQOS EPI LIQON hOS OU MH KATALUQHi.

LUKE 21:35 hWS PAGIS: EPEISELEUSETAI GAR EPI PANTAS TOUS KAQHMENOUS  
EPI PROSWPON PASHS THS GHS.

JOHN 12:15 MH FOBOU, QUGATHR SIWN: IDOU hO BASILEUS SOU ERCETAI,  
KAQHMENOS EPI PWLON ONOU.

RE. 4:4 KAI KUKLOQEN TOU QRONOU QRONOUS EIKOSI TESSARES, KAI EPI TOUS  
QRONOUS EIKOSI TESSARAS PRESBUTEROUS KAQHMENOUS PERIBEBLHMENOUS EN  
hIMATIOIS LEUKOIS KAI EPI TAS KEFALAS AUTWN STEFANOUS CRUSOUS.

RE. 6:2 KAI EIDON, KAI IDOU hIPPOS LEUKOS, KAI hO KAQHMENOS EP' AUTON  
ECWN TOXON KAI EDOQH AUTWi STEFANOS KAI EXHLQEN NIKWN KAI hINA NIKHSHi.

Luke 21:35 is a useful example since there you see EPI + acc. with  
EPEISELEUSETAI and TOUS KAQHMENOUS.

So I suspect that PROELQONTES EPI TO PLOION must be motion toward or  
onto the boat.


Thank you,


Elizabeth Kline






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