[B-Greek] Titus 2:11
Carl W. Conrad
cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Fri Aug 17 17:38:13 EDT 2007
On Aug 17, 2007, at 11:53 AM, frjsilver at optonline.net wrote:
> Dear Friends --
> This seems to me to be a clear case of -- what can I call it in
> English? -- maybe an 'elliptic referent'?
> It's not all that complicated or in need of elaborate explanations.
> I read this line as saying:
> EPEFANH GAR H XARIS TOU QEOU (H XARIS H) SWTHRIOS PASIN ANQRWPOIS.
> Imagine the speaker pausing after QEOU, and maybe you can 'feel' it
> as I do.
> Does that help?
Unfortunately, I think it begs the fact (petitio principii); it
assumes that SWTHRIOS is attributive to CARIS. It's true enough that
some interpreters have read it this way, -- I see this in the UMG
Modern Greek version:
DIOTI EFANERWQH H CARIS TOU QEOU H SWTHRIOS EIS PANTAS ANQRWPOUS.
and it reflects the TR and the MT,
EPEFANH GAR hH CARIS TOU QEOU hH SWTHRIOS PASIN ANQRWPOIS
which accounts for the KJV version, "For the grace of God that
bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,"
I certainly would have expected that article (hH) before SWTHRIOS if
it is to be understood as attributive, But it doesn't seem to be
there in the older MSS.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Denise Parkes
> Date: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:01 pm
> Subject: [B-Greek] Titus 2:11
> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>> Titus 2:11: EPEFANH GAR H XARIS TOU QEOU SWTHRIOS PASIN ANQRWPOIS.
>> This verse seems to be straitforward. Both the NASB and the RSV
>> this verse thus: For the grace of God has appeared, bringing
>> salvation to
>> all men.
>> But the NIV and the KJV add the word "that" to give a different
>> meaning ie:
>> For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men.
>> This NIV/KJV translation seems awkward, especially when the word
>> "that" has
>> to be added to make it work.
>> Is there ambiguity in the original Greek?
>> Looking forward to your help,
>> Denise Parkes
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Carl W. Conrad
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