[B-Greek] The masculine participle in Mark 13:14
anthonybuzzard at mindspring.com
Sat Dec 23 19:12:38 EST 2006
Carl and Elizabeth, While the verb hISTHMI is under consideration,
would anyone like to comment on the masculine participle modifiyng
the neuter BDELUGMA in Mark 13:14?
Does this point to personality in the BDELUGMA? So some translations
like Weymouth have: "standing where he ought not."
At 01:04 PM 12/19/2006, Elizabeth Kline wrote:
>On Dec 19, 2006, at 9:42 AM, Carl W. Conrad wrote:
> > Just to be a little bit more precise about the forms of this verb:
> > the present-tense forms are hISTHMI ("make stand"), which is the
> > active causative form of what should perhaps more reasonably be
> > considered the real lemma, hISTAMAI, which means "rise to a standing
> > position" or "come to a halt." The perfect-tense form hESTHKA (older
> > hESTAA) is intransitive as is the aorist form ESTHN (as opposed to
> > the active ESTHSA corresponding to the active causative present
> > hISTHMI). These intransitive perfect and aorist are forms
> > corresponding to the present middle hISTAMAI; they are survivals from
> > the period before the development of a perfect middle-passive form in
> > -MAI/SAI/TAI/KTL.
>Is intransitive perfect hO hESTHKWS stative or imperfective?
>John 3:29 hO ECWN THN NUMFHN NUMFIOS ESTIN: hO DE FILOS TOU NUMFIOU
>hO hESTHKWS KAI AKOUWN AUTOU CARAi CAIREI DIA THN FWNHN TOU NUMFIOU.
>hAUTH OUN hH CARA hH EMH PEPLHRWTAI.
>I would agree that the perfect active fills the same slot as the
>present active but to say it functions as the present (G.Somsel)
>implies that it is aspectually imperfective.
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