[B-Greek] him which is, and which was, and which is to come

dshaffer at latterrainbereans.org dshaffer at latterrainbereans.org
Sun Nov 20 17:35:51 EST 2005

I would be interested to know what would be a literal translation
of the phrase used to describe the Almighty in the various verses
in Revelation. I would especially be interested in the verb tense
that the Greek would provide, without making the translation
decide the tense that will be used.

Here are some observations that I made, which will help to
clarify what I am looking for.
According to the Strong numbers, the same phrase is used four
times through chapter 11 in the King James Version. Then the word
for "to come" is replaced by the future tense of the "be" verb in
chapter 16.

King James Rev. 1:4, 8; 4:8; 11:17
him which is, and which was, and which is to come;3801

King James Rev. 16:5
which art,5607 and2532 wast,2258 and2532 shalt be,2071

I am not asking why "to come" is replaced by "shalt be," since
that would be getting into theological implications. My main
questions are concerning the text that the NASB and some others

At Rev. 1:4 the whole three-part phrase which is seen in the King
James is in the NASB translation, but the Strong's number only
indicates the "to come" part, which is part of the text that the
King James uses. How can they justify the three-part phrase if
the "to come" part is all that is in the Greek?

NASB Rev. 1:4
from Him who is and who was and who is to come2064

Verse 8 is almost the same, but the definite article is also
there; and it seems to take on the first part of the phrase.

NASB Rev. 1:8
"who is and who3588 was and who is to come2064

Rev. 4:8 has the same Greek words according to the Strong
numbers, but more of the words are credited to Strong 2064, which
is the "to come" part.

NASB Rev. 4:8

In chapters 11 and 16 the phrase is shortened. It looks like the
definite article is all there is, and is translated as the first
two parts of the three-part phrase, except the "were" part seems
to be credited to the next Greek word.

NASB Rev. 11:17; 16:5
who are and who3588

Something doesn't seem right to me. Is there something that I'm
not seeing? Is there error in somebody's work of associating the
Strong numbers to the translation?

Donald L. Shaffer

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