[B-Greek] Hebrews 6:1-2
dirkzwager at pandora.be
Mon Feb 28 11:15:04 EST 2005
MH PALIN QEMELION KATABALLOMENOI
METANOIAS APO NEKRWN ERGWN KAI PISTEWS EPI QEON
BAPTISMWN DIDACHS EPIQESEWS TE CEIRWN
ANASTASEWS TE NEKRWN KAI KRIMATOS AIWNIOU.
Most of the genitives depend of QEMELION: METANOIAS, PISTEWS, DIDACHS,
ANASTASEWS, KRIMATOS AIWNIOU. You can translate those genitives with
"consisting of". All the rest depend of one of these genitives or of APO.
If you have to choose between "teaching of baptisms" and "baptisms of
teaching", it is a question of logic, not of formal possibilities of the
Greek language. Likewise you do not understand "deads of resurrection" but
"resurrection of deads".
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Van: "Charles Rempel" <CharlesR at mygalaxyexpress.com>
CC: <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Verzonden: zondag 27 februari 2005 21:53
Onderwerp: RE: [B-Greek] Hebrews 6:1-2
> <CharlesR at mygalaxyexpress.com> writes:
> > MH PALIN QEMELION KATABALLOMENOI METANOIAS APO NEKRWN ERGWN KAI PISTEWS
> > QEON BAPTISMWN DIDAXHS EPIQESEWS TE XEIRWN ANASTASEWS TE NEKRWN KAI
> KRIMATOS AINWNIO
> > Two questions:
> > How do you understand BAPTISMWN DIDAXHS?
> > How are TE and KAI used in this sentence?
> While there were ablutions in Judaism (check out info re: "mikvah"), I
> to think that this is in regard to Christian practices. I would
> it to refer to catechetical instruction prior to baptism. If I recall
> correctly, the early church had a fairly extended time of instruction
> (perhaps 2 yrs?) before full admittance to the fellowship of the
> It must be remembered that the church at this time consisted mostly of new
> converts so that paedo-baptism was not so extensively practiced then. The
> catechumens were dismissed prior to the celebration of communion. This,
> however, is beyond the discussion of Greek and into church history so I'll
> leave it at that.
> Charles: How would your response tie in with the other uses of BAPTISMOS
> Colossians 2:12 (Spirit Baptism) and Mark 7:4 & Hebrews 9:10 (ritual
> Actually, I'm more interested in the relationship of the two genetives
> relative to each other and then relative to the rest of the sentence. If
> were an accusative with the genetive it would be baptisms of teaching.
> the two geneitives, forgive me for making a simplistic translaton, of
> baptisms of teaching?
> (I have read, and appreciate, Dr. A. Dirkzwager comments but would like
> observations if they are out there.)
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