[B-Greek] Romans 16:7
william at faithfulbible.com
Tue Dec 21 11:56:21 EST 2004
Dan Wallace' article "Junia Among the Apostles: The Double Identification."
www.bible.org/page.asp?page_id=1163 goes into both the 'Junia' question and
the one you state below in great deal.
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[mailto:b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Patrick Narkinsky
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 8:46 AM
To: Harold R. Holmyard III
Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Romans 16:7
There is another issue here that I would be interested in hearing
folks' opinions on. Namely, how do we interpret the phrase "hOITINES
EISIN EPISHMOI EN TOIS APOSTOLOIS"? There's significant diversity in
how this is translated among translations across ideological lines.
ESV - "They are well known *TO* the apostles,* and they were in Christ
NRSV - "they are prominent *AMONG* the apostles, and they were in
Christ before I was." [Emphasis mine in both cases.]
It seems that the majority of translations are sticking to translating
EN as "among", but that newer conservative translations are choosing to
translate it as "to". Personally, I think that this is a far more
significant question that the gender of IOUNIAN.
FWIW, I tend to favor the NRSV's translation because it seems to me to
fall much more in the usual sense of "EN" than the ESV's. However, I
would be very interested in hearing comment from others on this list.
Patrick Narkinsky - patrick at narkinsky.com
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts."
- Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan
On Dec 21, 2004, at 11:30 AM, Harold R. Holmyard III wrote:
> HH: The assumption you're making is that there has been a name change.
> But this issue is not about a name change, is it, but about whether
> IOUNIAN is a masculine or feminine name. There is a name change
> variant in Rom 16:7, that of IOULIAN, a feminine name, but are you
> referring to it? The addition of circumflex accent to IOUNIAN may
> indicate what had previously been understood; it is not necessarily a
> change at all. The name IOUNIAN can be a feminine or a masculine name,
> depending on the accenting.
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