EPISTREFW Zech 10:9-10
c stirling bartholomew
cc.constantine at worldnet.att.net
Mon Apr 15 18:34:58 EDT 2002
on 4/15/02 11:12 AM, Randall Buth wrote:
> Well, stereotypical translation equivalents would mean that the LXX
> translator wouldn't have had much say in the matter. If for him
> hu heshiv should be translated EPISTREYAI, then he would.
> And if hu shav was to be normally EPISTREYAI, then so be it.
> Basically, the problem is in Greek and is unrelated to Hebrew.
> i.e. EPISTREYAI can be both transitive and intransitive in Greek.
> One does not mix up hu shav and hu heshiv (oto) in Hebrew.
> In other words, an 'accident' in one language doesn't bind a different
The question isn't really about Hebrew lexical semantics or syntax. The
question is, how did the LXX translator understand the distinction between a
Qal and not-Qal of the same root? Granted, the LXX translator may have been
dead wrong, but it is still a question worth asking.
I took a look the verb hlq in Zech. I found all the Qal forms and all the
not-Qal forms. Then I merged the results of each into a MT/LXX window and
too a look at the translation equivalents. This little exercise produced
results that appear to support your thesis. There seems to be a distinct
handling of hlq Qal and hlq not-Qal in Zech.
Take a look at two representative verses in your HMT and compare with the
LXX and you will see the difference:
ZECH. 2:6 KAI EIPA PROS AUTON POU SU POREUHi KAI EIPEN PROS ME DIAMETRHSAI
THN IEROUSALHM TOU IDEIN PHLIKON TO PLATOS AUTHS ESTIN KAI PHLIKON TO MHKOS
ZECH. 6:7 KAI hOI YAROI EXEPOREUONTO KAI EPEBLEPON TOU POREUESQAI TOU
PERIODEUSAI THN GHN KAI EIPEN POREUESQE KAI PERIODEUSATE THN GHN KAI
PERIWDEUSAN THN GHN
In ZECH. 2:6 hlq Qal is rendered POREUHi
In ZECH. 6:7 hlq Qal is rendered POREUVESQAI, POREUVESQE
In ZECH. 6:7 hlq not-Qal is rendered PERIODEUSAI, PERIODEUVSATE,
This is a tiny sample but it looks like you have a thesis which can be
supported from the LXX.
Thanks again for your comments,
Clayton Stirling Bartholomew
Three Tree Point
P.O. Box 255 Seahurst WA 98062
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